Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Murphy (ice hockey)


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The result was   delete. Courcelles 08:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Murphy (ice hockey)

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Junior hockey player has not yet established himself to meet notability requirements per WP:HOCKEY. Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball. Dolovis (talk) 04:51, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions.  —Pparazorback (talk) 09:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable junior player. Can be recreated when/if he meets WP:NHOCKEY or otherwise achieves notability. -DJSasso (talk) 15:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm a fan of his, but I agree it's too early. Tabercil (talk) 15:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree that with the Orr/Fogartyesque numbers he's putting up, he's going to qualify for an article even before the Draft under the "preeminent honors" clause, but this isn't yet the end of the season.  Ravenswing  17:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Comment This is a grey-area one in my view, as Murphy is a top rated prospect for the 2011 draft, and in some cases, there are arguments that he could go #1. I would say delete for now, but without prejudice for recreating come April or May, as he will start to see a considerable amount of reliable coverage as the draft approaches if he remains so highly ranked. Resolute 02:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: The reason I'd be against any IAR invocation is that there's been at least one Can't Miss Sure To Be Top Five junior player who (as I recall) was in a career-ending accident halfway through the season. Knock on wood, of course, but it ain't done until it's done.   Ravenswing  06:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, given the way he's performing I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing in the World Junior Championships come Christmastime... which would definitely qualify him for an article. Tabercil (talk) 06:32, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not according to NHOCKEY it wouldn't.  Ravenswing  07:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Clause 6: "Played on a senior national team (such as at the Olympic Games or World Championship)." That's how Ryan's teammate Gabriel Landeskog has one. Tabercil (talk) 15:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The junior team is not the senior team. Landeskog has an article because he has played for a top-level professional league (Elitserien). RG - I'm not arguing IAR, but rather pointing out that if he remains a top prospect as the draft approaches, he will generate the coverage to meet WP:GNG, and at that point it would be appropriate to recreate an article on him.  But, that coverage will have to happen first. Resolute 16:10, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What Resolute said; the wording of NHOCKEY was chosen very particularly, and "senior"-level hockey is a very particular term.  Ravenswing  16:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails nhockey currently. I feel the wjc is not a senior level as well. Keeping the article falls on Crystal balling. And anything can happen in six/seven months. Ottawa4ever (talk) 13:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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