Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Started the Fire (Famosiz song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete &mdash; fails notability guidelines. --Haemo (talk) 07:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Ryan Started the Fire (Famosiz song)

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Non-notable song, by non-notable group. Cannot find any sources to verify info as well Wildthing61476 (talk) 14:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The single has just as much right to "live" as much as "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People" by Legendary K.O. or 3OH!3 does. Just because a song is non-notable "this second" doesn't mean it is non-notable forever. I haven't created and article for the band, just this one song. I think it should remain where it is.--Gen. Quon (talk) 14:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If they are non-notable right now, then the article needs to be deleted. Wikipedia's not a crystal ball, and IF they become notable, then re-add the article. Wildthing61476 (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, there are plenty of artivles on wikipedia that aren't what you call hugely notable. I agree that wikipedia isn't a crystal ball, but the song is an extension of a parody as featured in the Office. That in its self is enough for it to be kept. The article is notable to many people, and is helpful and useful. Wikipedia's entire purpose is to unite the world in knowledge and by deleting a helpful page (to someone) like this, it is not only destroying wikipidia's reputation, but it is also probably making the writer lose faith in the power of wikipedia. As I've said above, I think the article should be kept.--76.246.176.32 (talk) 22:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per author's admission of nonnotability, above. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 02:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Famosiz may not be big nationally, but it is creating a sensation in its hometown and will soon expand to the national market. There are plenty of obscure bands on wikipedia, and just because they aren't Aerosmith doesn't mean Wikipedia users don't want to learn about them. Famosiz is an up and coming band that deserves a Wikipedia page for its influence on pop culture. As stated before, this article is a simple parody of a song prominently featured on the office. The band is a popular home-town attraction, and their popularity is growing. just because they're small doesn't mean nobody cares. They are important, since they have fullfilled the promise to put out a single.--65.68.97.195 (talk) 13:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC
 * Keep This page should be saved, if not for Famosiz' notability, then for the impact of this song. It is a parody and extension of a song prominintely featured on The Office. — Jerk Face McGee (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep While Famosiz isn't exactly what you'd call a world-wide known band, I still belive this page should be kept. There are many other small bands here on Wikipedia, and I don't see why Famosiz can't be on here either. There is nothing offensive or false on this page, it is simply just information about a small town band called Famosiz. I happen to be a fan here in Ottawa, and there are many others in the area. Keep the page.--Free2liverandom (talk) 13:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC) — Free2liverandom (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete No significant third party coverage of the song or the group. -Nv8200p talk 03:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep If we have to delete articles that contain lesser known songs or bands, then we would have to delete Cake, Blue Oyster Smash, Sweet Diss and the Comebacks, and 3OH!3. Give smaller bands a chance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.68.97.195 (talk) 14:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Of the bands listed here that I could actually find on Wikipedia, they have references. This article does not and fails WP:V -Nv8200p talk 15:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, to be fair, I tried to add the bands MySpace and FaceBook accounts as references, but they kept being deleted. They are good sources though. The whole external links arguement should be discounted. I'll try something else though.--76.246.176.32 (talk) 23:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment MySpace and Facebook are NOT reliable sources however. Also the external link part of this can't be discounted, simply because there doesn't seem to be any other links to show how this band is notable, which is the main point of contention here. Wildthing61476 (talk) 11:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Then "The Prodigy," a notable band from England should remove their MySpace, as should "Green Day," or "Weird Al" Yankovic, or "The Offspring," or "The Scantones," etc. You can't try and kill this will its young.--65.68.97.195 (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think what the problem is, is that people seemed to have lost track of the fact that this AfD is about the song, not the band. IMHO.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 12:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Question Is this on iTunes? Is the label verified? If the answer is yes then this is another Indie band that deserves a page. Sorry that I don't have time to read the whole debate, I'm just a little short on time. --Iron Chef (talk) 21:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Does a song nessecarily be on iTunes to be legitimate? The label is true, I live in Ottawa and have seen it, but as for the iTunes part, what if the band doesn't want their music on iTunes?--65.68.97.195 (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The main issue with keeping this page seems to be notability. We have already presented numerous arguments concerning Famosiz' current notability, but if you need more confirmation, look no further than Garagebands.wikia.com. Famosiz is the featured band on that page, proving its fame and need for a wiki page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerk Face McGee (talk • contribs) 02:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.