Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Thomas Holley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. –MuZemike 03:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Ryan Thomas Holley

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Non-notable musician who is part of a non-notable band. The article fails WP:N and WP:MUSICIAN. Trusilver 00:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as A7 and salt. and I had previously speedied the article but the user persistently recreates it. causa sui (talk) 19:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You deleted it while I was in the middle of creating it without even waiting for references or even asking me if there were any. -Davereject (talk) 20:15, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, this article has been around for three days now, is there any chance some of these sources might be forthcoming? Right now the only thing I see is a puff article that contains no reliable secondary sources. Trusilver  14:50, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "puff article"? How are those references non-reliable source? The Austin Chronicle, Alternative Addiction, Texas Musicians... these all seem to fit your criteria for notability. Correct me if I'm wrong. And even still "The absence of citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that the subject is not notable." On top of the fact that there are at least 3 separate articles that exist on Wikipedia that reference him; 1, 2, 3. I don't see the problem. Davereject (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:MUSICIAN for the criteria for articles on musicians. As far as other articles go, just because there are other articles that shouldn't be here, that doesn't mean yours should. (note, I haven't actually looked at those articles, therefore I'm in no way judging their suitability or lack thereof.) Trusilver  17:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I will take a look at that page. My point wasn't "these pages exist, so should his". Just that on top of the references, which meet your criteria of notability, there are pages which are unquestionably notable (no tags for deletion) which make reference to him. Which should lend some evidence that I'm not just making a page for some yokel who started a band and played a few shows around town. Davereject (talk) 20:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment I've manually relisted this month-old AFD since it seems it was never posted in the first place. causa sui (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 20:08, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as failing WP:MUSICIAN. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.