Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Wade (ice hockey)


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The result was delete. No prejudice against recreation if it is found he meets WP:NMOTORSPORT because of the stock car stuff. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 02:23, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Ryan Wade (ice hockey)

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No apparent sources to meet WP:GNG. Fails WP:NHOCKEY. Yosemiter (talk) 21:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep Using his Elite Prospect's link, I believe he passes multiple criteria of NHOCKEY. He has played one game in the AHL, and 200 games in the WHL and ECHL. Also, he scored the most points and was the MVP in the CIS. These should cover criteria 2, 3, and 4. However, if these statistics don't cover NHOCKEY, I have an interview that can help flesh out the article and confirmation that he was MVP for the golden bears. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 06:22, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * None of those meet NHOCKEY. Each criterion refers to the League Assessment found in the link at the top of NHOCKEY. #2 refers to top level amateur leagues in areas where there is/was no professional hockey (such as the Eastern Bloc) or are so old that sourcing for GNG would be near impossible, so the WHL and CIS do not qualify him here. #3 is 200 games the second level of the League Assessment, so it needs be 200 games in the AHL. He played ONE. #4 refers to the third tier on the League Assessment. The CIS has no inherent notability based on media coverage. So based on this, to Keep he must meet WP:GNG with multiple secondary independent sources. Unfortunately, all sources I have found on were published by primary sources (as in from teams he played with or local media only). Your interview is published by his former team and is not secondary or independent. If there were other sources, the interview would be a good supplemental primary source, but as it stands he still fails GNG. Yosemiter (talk) 12:27, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I was using a different link for the leagues and misunderstood the criteria for NHOCKEY. In that case, I have a source from Canoe saying he was MVP for 2003-04, a news source saying he scored the first goal of the Salmon Kings existence. I also found some sources that I need to check: he held the WHL record for the fastest goal in a period, and was the MVP for U of Alberta in 2001-02. Hopefully this is a start to reach WP:GNG. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:14, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately those are all appear to be routine sources and not considered sufficient for GNG. All of those are mostly just mentions of either him or the fact that he won an award, nothing specifically about him. Being mentioned as MVP is much different than an secondary article about why or what he did to be named MVP (such as this article for Mitch Marner). Remember, Wikipedia is not a stats site or a sports almanac, other pages do that job just fine. So such minor accomplishments such as "first goal the history of a short-lived team" and "fastest goal in a junior league game" are no more notable than "fastest goal in an outdoor game played in the rain" or any other random stat. (The outdoor-rain stat is a joke, but the point remains there exists hundreds of minor records that stat sites do keep track of and we do not.) Yosemiter (talk) 20:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  00:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not meet NHOCKEY and not enough sources to demostrate GNG. I am willing to give a little credit for the Canoe article mentioning that he was named MVP, but that still falls short of the GNG guideline of multple independent sources providing significant coverage.  And the interview is not really independent since it published by a team he played for.  Although I would be willing to give credit for an interview in a source such as The Hockey News or a major newspaper (which I think is more than some others would), this interview is not adequate for the purpose of contributing to a demonstration of notability. Rlendog (talk) 15:45, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Interesting thing i did find is that he also was in stockcar racing, and a reference that he won at Western speedway in 2007 and 2008, and possibly came in 1st in points for those years for Island Stock Car Racing. However, I have to check if Island Stock Car is notable or not. I've been getting references looking at his stock car career, and the above that i've mentioned are not all of them, so more digging is required. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:47, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Doesn't meet NHOCKEY, doesn't meet the GNG, and certainly doesn't meet the stringent criteria of WP:NMOTORSPORT.   Ravenswing   22:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


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