Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryanair Flight 4102


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The result was Keep   Yash  t  101   13:51, 5 May 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Ryanair Flight 4102

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Not notable per WP:AIRCRASH for a standalone article. WP:NOTNEWS also applies. No WP:PERSISTENCE ...William 14:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions....William 14:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions....William 14:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep - meets WP:AIRCRASH, The accident involved hull loss or serious damage to the aircraft or airport. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note - I'm on the fence about this, but it should be noted that AIRCRASH is not a guideline for exactly this reason, because as safe as air travel is, "significant damage" or even "loss of life" are broad categories. GNG is a better guideline in this case. Namely, how much media attention did it attract, and has it been mentioned in any mainstream context since the immediate aftermath of the accident? That AIRCRASH policy strikes me as way too broad. Shadowjams (talk) 01:35, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the bird strike article's incidents section, where it is already mentioned. I can see no reason to keep this as a separate article, but it is a good illustration of the potential consequences of a bird strike; seems a good fit to me. YSSYguy (talk) 07:22, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets AIRCRASH in that the airframe was written off, and was also Ryanair's most serious accident at the time of occurrence (and is currently). Mjroots (talk) 07:02, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - As I said atArticles for deletion/KLM Flight 1673, this one similarly does in fact meet WP:AIRCRASH, but the nom's point about WP:PERSISTENCE is also valid. Leaning keep because I favor specific guides over general ones. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 16:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B  music  ian  05:03, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep As stated, is Ryanair's most serious accident till date. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 07:28, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, we don't hear enough about bird strikes.Red Hurley (talk) 08:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * How much is enough? Bird strikes occur literally every day, perhaps that's why there isn't "enough" coverage. YSSYguy (talk) 09:52, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep This is obviously a very serious and notable incident with the aircraft destroyed. — O'Dea  (talk) 03:02, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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