Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryanair Flight 4102 (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Cabayi (talk) 10:44, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Ryanair Flight 4102
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Not notable aviation incident. WP:NOTNEWS applies. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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*Redirect to List of accidents and incidents involving the_Boeing 737 where it is already mentioned, not particularly noteworthy on its own IMO as no deaths occurred. Also citing from the WP:AIRCRASH essay suggests the following: For airline and large civil aircraft, a listing of notable aircraft incidents and accidents, where appropriate. Accidents or incidents should only be included in aircraft articles if ... The accident involved hull loss or serious damage to the aircraft or airport which suggests to me that this particular article isn't notable enough as a standalone article. Nightfury 20:13, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS; we don't need an article every time a plane is written off Spiderone  12:15, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment This was nominated in 2012 for the same reason by the same person and it was kept with fairly strong consensus. What's changed that justifies deleting the article? Currently leaning keep but open to discussion. Jumpytoo Talk 19:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Change of vote to keep per below. Nightfury 10:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Night</b><b style="color: black">fury</b> 20:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Ryanair – where it is already covered in sufficient detail – a more meaningful target than a mile-long list of 737 accidents of all airlines. --Deeday-UK (talk) 11:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - An aircraft that is almost new was written off. Such a course of action is not taken lightly. This is not your run of the mill birdstrike. Lack of fatalities ≠ lack of notability. Mjroots (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - Written off means hull loss doesn't it? Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by)  18:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - it was an airliner hull loss, with injuries to crew and passengers as well. It was also a fairly unusual and noteworthy hull loss. - Ahunt (talk) 23:16, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:27, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, hull loss, injuries on board, and overall a significant event. Vici Vidi (talk) 06:13, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep the hull loss alone would pass WP:PLANECRASH.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


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