Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryo Te Tori


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 06:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Ryo Te Tori

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Judo move of questionable notability. I do not feel that specific moves within a martial arts discipline, unless of particular note, deserve their own page. On top of that, no sources are provided.

Nearly identical to this debate and therefore subsumed into this debate are the 18 or so below it:

Ryo Te Tori, Akushu Kote Tori, Akushu Ude Tori, Akushu Kotemaki Tori, Mizu Kuguri, Mae Yama Kage, Norimi, Shidare Fuji Shime, Momo Jime, Ashi Garami Jime, Daki Kubi Jime, Ichimonji Shime, Juji Gatame, Uchi Gama, Emon Tori, Katate Hazushi Ichi, Yubi Tori, Moro Yubi Tori

Tyrenon (talk) 05:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Neutral Comment Can you at least combine these nominations into small groups for easier display on the daily log? There has to be a better way for a large AfD group like this to be displayed.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 06:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm currently trying to figure out how to combine them down. As it stands, I've got them re-ordered by what the particular complaints were; the problem is just mashing the large number of identical debates into one debate.Tyrenon (talk) 06:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: There are instructions in the page on AFDs on how to group nominate articles for deletion. Those instructions can be found at Articles_for_deletion.  All these excess nomination pages should be closed and discussed together through this bundling method. Locke9k (talk) 15:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment on AFD: Actually, this is not just a judo move. It is simply the Japanese martial arts term for an attack in which the attacker grabs both of the opponent's wrists, one with each hand.  It isn't really a technique, just the name for an attack. Locke9k (talk) 15:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, most of the items in this list are not "Judo moves" but are described in the articles as being techniques in Danzan Ryu jujitsu. One possibility would be to merge them into that article, but the problem is that its not clear from any sources that these techniques exist only within that art.  Its entirely possible that some of them exist in many arts and thus shouldn't be merged and redirected into one.  For the ones that don't have any notability established and no references, I would say to delete.  For the ones that have a reference linking them to  a specific art, a merge and redirect might be appropriate. Locke9k (talk) 15:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment concur that there are lots of problems with this batch of nominations. The major moves of Judo, an Olympic sport, are notable and well-sourced and should be kept (much as individual terms for baseball etc. are kept); the Danzan-ryu techniques should be deleted or redirected to that art. This particular term should probably be deleted. JJL (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. The arts are notable, but the individual technique (or the term) seems to lack notability. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. No content worth preserving. Lists of techniques in judo and jujitsu seem comprehensisve already. RD to appropriate art would seem fine.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.