Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryuji Utomo


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:49, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Ryuji Utomo

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Challenged PROD, reason for deletion was "No evidence this footballer meets WP:GNG or has played in a fully pro league." C679 09:03, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment - The article says he played for professional clubs in Indonesia, and Bahrain, which, if true, would give him inherent notability. However, the infobox shows he never played for them. It's possible author just didn't add that to the infobox, but it's also possible he signed for the teams and never played for them. Could someone with more knowledge of the Indonesian and Bahrainian leagues look into this? Smartyllama (talk) 18:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep This article shows him playing for a club in the Indonesia Super League which is fully professional. At least I think it does. The translation wasn't very good, but it appears he played in a game for them, the text is right, and the infobox is wrong. Therefore, he has inherent notability. Smartyllama (talk) 18:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: However ... if you read that article, it doesn't describe a regular season match for the senior club (which would be notable), but something called the "Bhayangkara Cup." This isn't even a league cup (such as the Piala Indonesia, Indonesian Community Shield or the Indonesian Inter Island Cup) but is apparently an exhibition competition, of the sort that academy players, loaners and folks far down the roster often play, and which isn't commonly held to support notability. It's mentioned in neither the ISL article, the Football in Indonesia article, or in the numerous competitions listed on the Football in Indonesia template.  I'd like to see some evidence that the subject has played for the first division team in league or league cup competition, or else that he has international caps.   Ravenswing   21:26, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nothing yet suggesting the necessary independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  04:06, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


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