Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sébé Allah Y'é


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. No claim to encyclopedic notability has been sourced (or even made). Eluchil404 (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Sébé Allah Y'é
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No assertion of notability. JD554 (talk) 10:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * These is no reason to delete this article. There are also other music titles created and accepted on Wikipedia. D@rk talk 10:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: If there is not reason to delete the article, the article needs to say why it meets the criteria at WP:N by using verifiable sources. --JD554 (talk) 10:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, please let this article exist. Please... D@rk talk 10:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't know if the article can meet the criteria. Someone else who knows (eg you) need to added the relevant information to the article. As it stands I don't think it meets the criteria to stay.--JD554 (talk) 10:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Take out the irrelevant sentence concerning the word "Allah" and it is a one-sentence article. Totally not notable. No merit in retaining the article. WWGB (talk) 10:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, no assertion of notability. Two sentence article with one sentence being completely irrelevant to the topic. Redfarmer (talk) 11:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Notability (music). Specifically
 * " Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable.  A separate article is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; permanent stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album. "  This article doesn't demonstrate why the song is notable above and beyond average songs which are (read above) not notable on their own.  User:Dark Kyle seems to be making a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument for keep, which unfortunately, is very rarely valid, and is generally only accepted if sufficient precedent exists as a result of it.--  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 14:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Given that the article was nominated for deletion just over an hour after it was created I'm tempted to cite WP:INSPECTOR, but WP:BIAS would do just as well. There has not been enough time to determine whether or not this song fulfills WP:MUSIC, especially considering that most sources are not going to be in English.  The artist who sings it is certainly notable, which is the reason I tagged the article for notability rather than CSD during newpage patrol.  Now, that being said, this AfD will run for at least five days, so I encourage Dark Kyle to get cracking.  Should that fail and the song ultimately not qualify per WP:MUSIC, I would suggest a redirect to Alpha Blondy. -- jonny - m  t  15:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * 5 days is plenty of time to do that. In all honesty people shouldn't be creating articles until they can source them, but as we all know people tend to be lazy and jump the gun.  Also, I find WP:INSPECTOR to be a fairly useless essay, with no real bearing on anything. As I have commented on the talk page, it is simply an excuse for people to be lazy in their editing.  --  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 15:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * One of the problems with this particular situation is that the original editor kept removing the notability tag and then removed a subsequent prod. There was really only one avenue left.--JD554 (talk) 15:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. I hadn't examined the page history carefully enough to notice the repeated removal of notability.  Well, then I'll strike my comment about WP:INSPECTOR above (on a separate note, I used to be much more pro-"create in sandbox and move to article space", but I've come to believe that leaving space for collaboration is a Good Thing) and hope that this lights the proper fire under the original author. -- jonny - m  t  04:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, the reason why I want this article to be kept is because there are also other song titles, created on Wikipedia. Like Dreadlock Holiday, Ghetto (Akon song) and so on. Sebe allah ye is one of my favourite songs from Alpha Blondy. I see no reason why this article should be deleted. If this article will be removed, I'll be forced to let my account blocked forever. D@rk talk 16:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This essay section outlines pretty well the reasons this is not a valid argument.  If you feel that these songs do not meet the criteria any more than this one, go ahead and nominate them.  Also, if you want to be that way and "quit" Wikipedia because one deletion doesn't go your way, thats your prerogative.  Don't act like its a threat.--  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 16:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

And there is one more thing, I want to know. Wikipedia is a community. So I don't know why other users won't help me editing this article. D@rk talk 16:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oni, I've left an answer on my talk page. I'm gonna continue working on Wikipedia but it's really a pitty that this article will get deleted. D@rk talk 21:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.