Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sélim Djem


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 21:07, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Sélim Djem

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Apparent self-promotion by a supposed prince. Even if I accept all the forum/homepage type pages as legitmate sources of information, then this guy is simply minor noble from a country which abolished the monarchy 100 years ago and according to a Google search receives no significant third-party media coverage. Travelbird (talk) 02:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - providing an analysis of the subject and this article against WP:GNG is made all the more difficult by the original author's apparent dislike for WP:MOS and most of Wikipedia's other guidelines and policies. The subject is supposed to be a notable journalist but the citation for his journalistic work points to an LinkedIn equivalent with his basic resume, not the interviews in question. He is supposed to be a notable author but I can't see that he has written any books that are on best-seller lists or that have been reviewed by others. Lastly, he is supposed to be notable for the fact that he is a pretender to the Ottoman throne, a claim to notability that has historically not received much support here. Unless someone can find some independent reliable sources to verify any of the claims of notability in the article, I just can't see how the subject passes WP:GNG. Happy for my first instincts to be proven wrong, though, and happy to consider additional sources that I might not have been able to find. Stalwart 111  03:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * delete even if notable and proper sources it would require nuking to the ground and a complete rewriting to bring it to anything close to standards. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  11:39, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

........... Good evening,

Since three older imperial princes of the Ottoman dynasty – Naz Osmanoglu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Osmanoglu, Aliosman Osmanoglu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BCndar_Aliosman and Osman Bayezid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayezid_Osman already appear in Wikipedia, the presence of Sélim Djem on this site sheds a more up to date light on the history and situations of the younger generation of Ottoman imperial princes.

The reason why most of the articles and interviews referenced on Sélim Djem's page are in French and Turkish, is because this page is the translation of the Wikipédia page in French, currently in preparation.

I would be grateful if you would accept to reconsider your decision.

Please feel free to tell me what I more can do to give you full appreciation of my work. Kind Regards, A. Buffon — Preceding unsigned comment added by ABCOM Suisse (talk • contribs) 05:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * it appears likely that you have a conflict of interest in this subject and if that is true, what you should be doing is stop directly editing the article and commenting at this AfD. What will allow this article to remain as a stand alone article is to show that it meets the basic requirements of having significant coverage in third party reliable sources and can be presented in a neutral point of view. If you are closely associated with the subject of the article, you would bring these sources to the talk page and have uninvolved editors review for inclusion. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  13:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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