Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/S. B. Raghunathacharya


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:55, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

S. B. Raghunathacharya

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG, created by editor with a disclosed COI. The sole example of independent secondary coverage is a brief notice of having won an award. The awards section of the article is a mess, but even if taken at its poorly-phrased-and-referenced word that Raghunathacharya has won all of these awards, none of them appear to meet notability guidelines in their own right and thus don't count towards WP:ANYBIO. Being a university administrator may indicate notability, but as a vice chancellor it's not a shoo-in in the absence of GNG. I was unable to find more sources online: searching on Google Books and Google Scholar, he gets some citations, but not enough to meet WP:NACADEMIC. With the available sources, any article would be an exercise in original research and I don't see a guideline-based reason to assume additional sources exist. signed,Rosguill talk 23:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Literature,  and India. signed,Rosguill talk 23:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Vice Chancellors of Indian universities are considered the highest position at the university, for purposes of WP:NPROF; however, I am unsure if the National Sanskrit University is a "". Curbon7 (talk) 01:46, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. As Curbon7 writes, vice-chancellor is the highest academic administrator level in India, so we're resting on whether National Sanskrit University was sufficiently major at the date at which he was VC; it seems to have been upgraded in status in 2020. Not seeing much in the way of citation profile. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:11, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Gusfriend changed the surname in this edit to no longer match the article title. Was there a reason for this, my friend? Phil Bridger (talk) 11:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe that there was a reference to support it but I am having no luck finding it now that I am looking so I am willing to admit that it was a mistake as I can't support the edit. Note that VIAF has a couple of variations on his name and this article stylises their name S.B. Raghunath Acharya. Gusfriend (talk) 09:18, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Rosguill, thanks for sharing this detail, it is specific and very helpful. Please see my responses below
 * "Does not appear to meet WP:GNG," - Times of India was and is one of the major newspapers in India (Alexa Rank #269 worldwide) and in the early 2000s Internet coverage was not great like it is today.
 * "The awards section of the article is a mess, but even if taken at its poorly-phrased-and-referenced word ..." - I agree with you on the poorly-phrased part, the words are verbatim from the Government of India website, I don't mind if it's rephrased for clarity http://www.sanskrit.nic.in/president_award_scheme.php
 * "notability guidelines in their own right" - In my mind, Award from the highest official in the country, President of India, is notable.
 * "but as a vice chancellor it's not a shoo-in in the absence of GNG" - Not sure what absence of GNG means, the official university website has been referenced. As others have pointed out, Vice-Chancellor of an Indian University is the highest position at the university
 * Best, Sbssmadhav (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I would suggest actually reading through WP:GNG so that you understand what is being asked of the article (and all articles, generally). If that guideline is too confusing, see WP:THREE, which is a simplified explanation. As for the President's Award, two notes: 1. The standard for awards contributing towards establishing notability is that they must themselves be established as notable, per our own guidelines (i.e. GNG). 2. It's not clear that it's actually awarded by the President of India, but rather is an award issued by the university Raghunathacharya worked at, per the sources provided in the article . signed,Rosguill talk 15:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You are right and I missed updating the reference to the official Ministry of Human Resources (MHRD) Government of India URL. I have updated the link to point to https://www.education.gov.in/en/sites/upload_files/mhrd/files/upload_document/awardees2002.pdf, this is not an award from the university, it is from the President of India, APJ Kalam, please see the reference in the PDF, number 11 on page 1 is Prof. S.B. Raghunathacharya. Thank you. Sbssmadhav (talk) 14:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So, that PDF in itself says basically nothing about the award other than who it was given to in 2002. But regardless, even if we assume that it's a government award, that doesn't make it Wikipedia-notable. You would need to provide enough sources to write an article about the award. signed,Rosguill talk 14:28, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Comment: The name of award which he got is President's Certificate of Honour and editors can get detail of award from this link http://www.sanskrit.nic.in/president_award_scheme.php#2002 (Note - This website run under National Informatics Centre. Contributor008 (talk) 17:09, 29 October 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:36, 2 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 03:59, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete Chancelor of the university might be notable, but there is nothing else that pushes them over GNG. almost but not quite. Oaktree b (talk) 05:29, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Great consideration given above to this gentleman's notability - and on the balance I would agree 'not quite'. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agreed with above, NPROF requires vice chancellorship to be at a major university because that best correlates with scholarly impact, and it's looking like this case doesn't measure up. JoelleJay (talk) 19:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


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