Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SAATH Charitable Trust


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. Clear copyvio of the company's website pages. Yunshui 雲 水 12:55, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

SAATH Charitable Trust

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This article reads like an advert, and there appears to be no notability, as required by WP:GNG and WP:CORP Joseph2302 (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: (changed from Keep, the following comment is irrelevant) I disagree - as a charitable organisation I don't see how it can be an advert, and it's a reasonably well written article. Give the author a few days to continue expanding the article, I'd say. Since he asked in the teahouse how to fix up the article, I'd say that you should give it a few days to be expanded.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranTribe (talk • contribs) 11:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:PROMO says " Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources, so articles about very small "garage" or local companies are typically unacceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they identify notable organizations which are the topic of the article. Wikipedia neither endorses organizations nor runs affiliate programs. See also Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for guidelines on corporate notability. Those promoting causes or events, or issuing public service announcements, even if noncommercial, should use a forum other than Wikipedia to do so."- therefore the fact that it's not-for-profit doesn't come into it. It's promotional because instead of using sources to provide factual information, it's just listing all products/services. Also, there is no way it passes WP:GNG or WP:CORP. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment True, though as I stated, the article still looks to be in development. The SAATH_Charitable_Trust shows a certain amount of notability, at least. I'd give it a while to be developed, instead of giving deletion notices as soon as the article begins development. That said, I do agree that it is not exceedingly notable, possibly @Saath123: could explain why it's notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranTribe (talk • contribs) 11:36, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't give immediate deletion notice, they've had 6 hours to fix it, when many editors would immediately have put deletion tags on it. If a COI editor decides to post an incomplete, promotional article about their non-notable organisation, then it's their fault for not using the proper drafting processes, WP:AFC and Article Wizard. Therefore, as it fails Wikipedia standards, it should be deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Just realised it's COI; didn't make the link between the article and author. I now support deletion of the article. KieranTribe (talk) 11:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.