Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SADDOLLS


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The result was   Delete. Salix (talk): 07:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

SADDOLLS

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There is no evidence of this band being notable by our standards. They appear to have two albums but not on a notable label; the article has no references to reliable sources and I haven't been able to find any either. Drmies (talk) 20:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - This article does not appear to assert the importance of its subject per WP:MUSICBIO. -- WikHead (talk) 22:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Lunatic Asylum record includes famous bands like mandragora scream.The band's second album includes featurings such as Jape Peratalo (to die for) Juska Salminen (HIM) Roberth Karlsson (Scar Symmetry) and Morgan Lacroix (Mandragora Scream) Also the first single from Happy Deathday called Bloodred is included on Sonic Seducer's compilation album "Cold Hand's Seduction Vol.128" Also the band's management in Germnay is handled by HIM'S Manager Silke Yli Sirnio. Here are some RELIABLE sources that this band is proffesional,and under a serious discography.


 * Deathstars band promoting band's new album Happy Deathday : http://rockoverdose.gr/news_details.php?id=9499


 * Album Happy Deathday Available on Nuclear Blast label's shop: http://www.nuclearblast.de/de/produkte/tontraeger/cd/cd/saddolls-happy-deathday.html


 * First single Bloodred included in Sonic Seducer's Compilation album "COLD HANDS SEDUCTION VOL.128" http://www.sonic-seducer.de/index.php/CD-Beilage/_.html


 * SadDoLLs Supporting Moonspell in Athens September 2012 http://rockoverdose.gr/news_details.php?id=9580&fb_source=message — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeDeSad (talk • contribs) 23:49, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * How this is NOT Notable? --GeorgeDeSad (talk) 23:53, 24 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeDeSad (talk • contribs) 23:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - I can't find enough sources to indicate WP:NBAND is met. I did find this but I'm not sure if that's even 'reliable'. SmartSE (talk) 23:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Lunatic Asylum record includes famous bands like mandragora scream.The band's second album includes featurings such as Jape Peratalo (to die for) Juska Salminen (HIM) Roberth Karlsson (Scar Symmetry) and Morgan Lacroix (Mandragora Scream) Also the first single from Happy Deathday called Bloodred is included on Sonic Seducer's compilation album "Cold Hand's Seduction Vol.128" Also the band's management in Germnay is handled by HIM'S Manager Silke Yli Sirnio. Here are some RELIABLE sources that this band is proffesional,and under a serious discography.


 * Deathstars band promoting band's new album Happy Deathday : http://rockoverdose.gr/news_details.php?id=9499


 * Album Happy Deathday Available on Nuclear Blast label's shop: http://www.nuclearblast.de/de/produkte/tontraeger/cd/cd/saddolls-happy-deathday.html


 * First single Bloodred included in Sonic Seducer's Compilation album "COLD HANDS SEDUCTION VOL.128" http://www.sonic-seducer.de/index.php/CD-Beilage/_.html


 * SadDoLLs Supporting Moonspell in Athens September 2012 http://rockoverdose.gr/news_details.php?id=9580&fb_source=message


 * Still not reliable? --GeorgeDeSad (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Also this http://www.rockrebelmagazine.com/recensione-saddolls-happy-deathday/ (talk) is one of the many reviews that was written about the band's second album Happy Deathday.They are all ove the net.--GeorgeDeSad (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * These are not, as far as I know, reliable sources by our standards. See WP:RS. Also, on my talk page you posted an edit, this one, where you said you're the band's management? That means you should probably not write their article. Drmies (talk) 02:16, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The band's management DID NOT created this page,only edited parts that were incorrect,did not know this were against the rules of this site. Anyway if you think that this page shouldnt exist,and this band is not notable do whatever you think. (Also there is a another Greek band (Sorrowful Angels) that has inserted similar sources as we (and the creator of page) did,but you have not "speedy-delete" that page.SadDoLLs are an establshed band,and we think that this is unfair,the rest is up to you.Good day.--GeorgeDeSad (talk) 07:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. If you feel the other article is not up to standard, feel free to tag it. -- WikHead (talk) 07:29, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I Dont know how to do this,can somebody help me? i want to make this page official because this band deserves to have one,in my opinion. Please double check the page,its well written.--GeorgeDeSad (talk) 19:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but whether you think it deserves a page is immaterial. You've added an enormous number of links to websites to the article, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web directory, and what the article needs are references to reliable sources that establish notability. Drmies (talk) 15:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

So if this page as you say,has become a web directory,this page has not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrowful_Angels I Think all music artists that have a full discography and an ACTIVE record label,should be treated the same in this community,am i right? --GeorgeDeSad (talk) 11:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Also this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_In_Your_Trip is concidered "notable" on wich standards? You have deleted (Happy Deathday (2012)) for not being an notable release (wich includes well known names that do featurings from around the world) and you leave this? This is ok with your standards? If SadDoLLs profile should be deleted then this should be too,or leave both profiles be!--GeorgeDeSad (talk) 12:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

and now as i know they have released their new album called happy deathday,and they go by the management of Silke Yli Sirnio (HIM's manager) over Germany,so the band has interviews on magazines like Sonic Seducer,Orkus,Metal Hammer and Rock Hard. Also this site and article proves that this album actually has some big names involved [TO DIE FOR ...SadDoLLs] --MikaLipstick (talk) 23:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This band SadDoLLs from Greece is well known and popular here in Greece (they were popular even form their first album when they appeared on many television shows)

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 * Can we please end this debate any time soon?I Like saddolls and i dislike watching this ''This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
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