Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SCSI Enclosure Services


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. I'm just closing this as Keep. Interested editors can pursue Merge options on the appropriate noticeboards or talk pages. But we won't be Merging/Reverse Merging several articles as part of this AFD closure. That will take more discussion outside the realm of AFD. Liz Read! Talk! 08:11, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

SCSI Enclosure Services

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may be correct to say that this is notable but in over a decade no one has added (or suggested as far as I know) any sources to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep – SES are vital for most types of SCSI enclosures, internal cages (alternatively SGPIO for cost saving) or external cases. Even if most users never see it it's still there. --Zac67 (talk) 15:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * OK but do you have sources to show notability? Chidgk1 (talk) 08:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment I'm not decided/sure whether this is notable or not (although there certainly appear to be plenty of sources to establish that it exists, and isn't entirely obscure), but if this is deleted there will almost certainly be a solid case to make that SCSI standalone enclosure services should also be deleted. LittlePuppers (talk) 22:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks I did not know about that article - I have now nominated it for deletion Chidgk1 (talk) 07:08, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Final relist. I can close this discussion if there is support for Merging this article into an existing target article. But I'm not sure how to do a reverse merge when one of the other articles is in an active AFD discussion. This is more complicated than a typical AFD resolution so I want to see if there is support for this decision. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and let's merge both SCSI standalone enclosure services and SES-2 Enclosure Management into this article. It seems to me that all these SCSI enclosure services protocol articles are based on a single loginwalled source at http://www.t10.org/cgi-bin/ac.pl?t=f&f=ses2r19a.pdf. I could find some additional sources at https://www.iso.org/standard/55041.html and https://www.snia.org/sites/default/orig/sdc_archives/2008_presentations/monday/RajendraDivecha_SCSI_SES.pdf. NicolausPrime (talk) 12:07, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, let's merge SES-2 Enclosure Management which is the same thing. Sadly, T10 standards are only freely available in draft stage ("Status: Publication") – I used to check their site once a month for free updates and have SES-3r13 and SES-4r05 to cite from. --Zac67 (talk) 12:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, as it seems that we had an edit conflict -- I suggested for SCSI standalone enclosure services to be also merged into this article. Are you OK with that too? NicolausPrime (talk) 13:10, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep I think this probably meets WP:GNG considering above sources and things like: and shorter ones like . I think merging together the SCSI enclosure articles likely makes sense. &mdash;siro&chi;o 03:34, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.