Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SEA-ME-WE 6


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

SEA-ME-WE 6

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subject - submarine communications cable. The project is in proposing stage and not yet in production/construction stage which might take a few years from now. WP:TOOSOON  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 06:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep: Thus far, I'm seeing this article, this article, and this article from The Daily Star, this one from the Bangla Tribune, this one from the Daily Sun, this one from the Dhaka Tribune, and this one from a telecomms news website called Capacity. I haven't read all of them, but they each seem to discuss the subject in enough depth. At a glance, it even seems like the article could actually be expanded a bit.  TheTechnician27  (Talk page)  07:19, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * DELETE - I agree that this is WP:TOOSOON (even if that is intended for other article types). As per the report, the government has decided in principle to do this. But while there are numerous duplicates of this report, there aren't any other reliable sources. For example, the Daily Star rehashes the Capacity story. It is premature to even call it a plan as they're exploring possibilities still. Belongs on WikiNews at this point. ogenstein (talk) 07:51, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I started the article, so off course I want to keep it. Even proposed projects (even if they never get completed) can meet notability criteria as per above, there are multiple reliable sources discussing this. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Except those are all basically the same article and all based off of the same quote from the minister. The content is basically the same and it's all speculation at this point regarding this project. That's why the page is only two sentences long. If it turns into something then there will be more to write. Compare this to the '4' cable page. Note that the news articles speak about other stuff which is why they are longer than this page, for example, the growth of internet in Bangladesh and the previous cables. I don't see anything written about the participation of other nations either. The previous cables all had other involvement (hence the 'SEA-ME-WE' rather than 'BA' in the name) so nobody even knows what the cable will connect yet. ogenstein (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not come up with the name, the name is cited in all those articles. The consortium is being formed. We can't just delete Super Bowl LVIII just because the articles is smaller and has less information than Super Bowl XLI. Also Most of the 4 article is outages. Also noted in one of the articles is that "The consortium for SEA-ME-WE-6 is being formed." So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 22:12, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * There are two big differences here: Super Bowl LVIII isn't 'in principle'. It is going to happen exactly as expected. There is no issue about the league, nor about media coverage, etc… everything is already fully formed. The cable may not not happen as expected. Something we don't know about could happen instead. Secondly, there is news about the actual game, specifically, where it will be held. You can find different articles in different places about it already. That said, I think it's too early for that page as well but I do think that it's more solid than the cable at this point. And you'll note that there is not a SB LVIX page yet, as that game has not found a site.


 * As to outages on the '4' page, well those potentially affect millions of people which is inherently newsworthy. On the other side of the world I recall reading about two of them ('08 and '13) along with the 'interception' bit (even if I wouldn't have remembered the name of the cable). Regarding the name, my point was that previous cables involved multiple nations (across three regions) and spanning more than 10K km. We still don't know who is being connected to what yet. I just think that too much is speculative to support an article today but we'll see what consensus develops. ogenstein (talk) 00:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Reasonable incompatible and there is no problem with this article source.-Nahal  (talk) 12:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability is not the issue here. WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTALBALL are. This project may or may not happen, and it's not Wikipedia's job to be a public service announcement for every project of potential significance. It can be recreated later if it is built and it is deemed notable. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTALBALL DO NOT APPLY HERE. No part of this article is considered crystal ball, everything is well cited. TooSoon implies that this cannot be independently verified.  Again, there are sources that establish everything in the article.  If it meets WP:N, and WP:V, not sure what the issue would be. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Viztor (talk) 02:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * *Comment. When the project is in "propose stage" and not even in drawing board, tendering, or under construction, then it means WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTALBALL.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 06:32, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * Delete, yep, WP:TOO SOON. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:50, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Significant" is an element of the GNG, this project seems to be too early in the concept phase for any such coverage to exist. ST47 (talk) 23:18, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:33, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is premature to even call it a plan and seems to be too early in the concept phase for any such coverage. even though, I couldn't find any other reliable sources. --MA Javadi (talk) 15:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)


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