Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SEIU Local 615


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to SEIU 32BJ. (non-admin closure) buidhe 14:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

SEIU Local 615

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Fails WP:NORG. Bold redirect reverted. WP:BRANCH applies. John from Idegon (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:57, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect I originally redirected this but it was reverted. No evidence of any sources indicating notability since that revert. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:29, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Firstly, your redirect target is wrong. Secondly, historical information on 615 should be maintained either in this article or in the article for 32BJ, the union 615 merged into. (As the largest local in the country, 32BJ definitely meets the notability standard.) The problem with deleting this article as things currently stand is that I count at least four facts that are not in either destination article. Thirdly, I think that readers would be better served by fixing the current article to represent both "New England 615", as it is currently known, and the historical Local 615. A good model is the article on the International Brotherhood of Stationary Firemen, which is today also subsumed into 32BJ and known as the National Conference of Firemen and Oilers. Since SEIU Local 615 is a stub, though, maybe we should move the article to New England 615 and go from there. --JECE (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * So it sounds as though you believe a redirect to SEIU 32BJ is most appropriate? I agree - and this was my original redirect! Cardiffbear88 (talk) 23:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry. My first point was directed at John from Idegon. I agree in principle with the redirect, but see my second point on the need to merge before we redirect. (I acknowledge that my third point is somewhat moot if nobody actually does the legwork to expand this article and investigate historical notability.) --JECE (talk) 19:25, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – bradv  🍁  06:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge to SEIU 32BJ; functionally, IIUC, 615 is a district of the local, although retaining the name of a former local. There's no reason to exclude the idea that it could not be stand alone article at some point in time (BRANCH doesn't trump GNG if the latter is met), but that does look to be the case here. --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)


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