Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SS Ben H. Miller


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SS Ben H. Miller
The result was Nomination withdrawn
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I do not see how this Liberty Ship is notable. Routine coverage only, and no significant events in her career. Looking at the lists of n=Liberty Ships, I see about 1/4 have articles, and in those cases I have checked, there is something much more substantial to say than this. It's not my field, but practice in the field seems sensible to me, but this is beyond it.  DGG ( talk ) 09:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: Community consensus has been that verifiable articles on large ships are considered notable, whether or not there were a lot of ships of the same design, or that they had to have had some extraordinary event or occurrance over their existence. Her wartime movements are here, showing she was on the Atlantic convoys, in the Mediterranean during the North African campaigns and the invasions of Italy, and in the Indian Ocean and South Atlantic towards the end of the war. Article can be expanded using these and similar sources. As an aside I'm a little surprised to see that you nominated this, given your views expressed on a similar discussions here and here DGG. Of course, views can change. Spokoyni (talk) 11:03, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep:By community consensus, WP:SHIP has established that civilian ships larger than 100 tons or over 100ft in length worthy of articles. As an author of almost 300 Liberty Ship articles I can attest to the fact that this is a large project to add the 2710 Liberty Ships built, but once added, they can be expanded upon. Instead of nominating for deletion, find ways to expand the articles.Pennsy22 (talk) 11:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: Keep per WP:SHIP. Routine coverage is enough in such cases. However, the ship isn't a special or legendary one. Asketbouncer (talk) 14:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:25, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:25, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - Passes GNG. Let the ordinary ships tell their stories too. Mjroots (talk) 19:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Claim to fame - the only Cuba-bound merchant ship searched by the Americans during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Mjroots (talk) 05:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * nomination withdrawn -- there was much less content when I nominated it., but it's true that my views some fields are a little less inclusive than they were 12 years ago.  DGG ( talk ) 12:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


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