Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/STNNNG


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

STNNNG

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Non-notable, db-band declined. See also Fake Fake and Category:STNNNG albums. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 03:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BAND. No releases on a major label, and has never charted. Erpert (let's talk about it) 06:39, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Jclemens-public (talk) 07:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * STNNNG is one of the most notable active bands from the Twin Cities. They have released three full-length records on the Modern Radio Record Label, which has also released over 50 recordings since 1999 from bands and artists such as Deerhoof, William Elliott Whitmore, Yellow Swans, Selby Tigers, and Motion City Soundtrack, among others.  The band finished first in the annual Picked to Click music poll in the Minneapolis City Pages, and were voted the [ #1 live act] in the [[Minneapolis Star-Tribune]] in 2005.  STNNNG has received much national and international acclaim, including many reviews of their albums throughout the United States and Europe source.  Most recently, they were featured on "All Things Considered" on Minnesota Public Radio (source), which profiled the release of their latest album, "The Smoke of My Will". I believe these are ample reasons why their Wiki should exist.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Congress (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 December 2010 (UTC)  — Congress (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete They have had some local interest, but there is nothing beyond that. Modern Radio Record Label is not good enough four wp:music, three notable bands (being nice to Selby Tigers) (not counting Motion City Soundtrack and Yellow Swans (an appearence on a compilation or a split 7" does not part of their roster make) is not "a roster of performers, many of whom are notable" duffbeerforme (talk) 14:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Struck due to further info below. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Modern Radio released a 7" - not a split - from Motion City Soundtrack, before they went on to sign with Epitaph and later Capitol Records. Yellow Swans have released a full-length CD and a split 7" on Modern Radio.  In addition, Mirah has released a 7" and a CD on the label, The Plastic Constellations have released two (one in conjunction with Frenchkiss Records, and William Elliott Whitmore appeared on a "compilation" of bands that he toured with, including Jenny Hoyston from Erase Errata on the label.  While Modern Radio might seem like a novel, boutique interest outside of the Midwest, the label has existed for over 11 years, has released over 50 records, and is considerably reknowned in and around the midwest.  STNNNG, having released three full-length albums on the label, could be considered their flagship band.  As previously mentioned, their fanbase extends far beyond Minneapolis, and many reviews of their latest album in France1, 2, 3, 4, and Germany support that.  Of course, there's still plenty of interest nationally, too (1, 2, 3 as some examples).  Even Allmusic.com, a widely-recognized source for music knowledge, has a review of their last album, Fake Fake. All this said, I think there is sufficient evidence online that STNNNG is a band that generates more than mere local interest.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Congress (talk • contribs) 21:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note User has only made one edit not related to this article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 04:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – The band has been covered in numerous articles in City Pages, St. Paul Pioneer Press, and the Star Tribune with articles from 2004 to the present. They have been featured on Minnesota Public Radio. They've toured beyond their home state: for example, I found a review in the San Antonio Express-News. The review in Allmusic is helpful towards establishing notability also. The subject meets WP:BAND criterion #1, and possibly #4 as well.  Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 01:57, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

*Delete If there is notable coverage lets actuly see it, not just be told its there (by the wat sources have to be RS). We need inline citations demonstrating notability, also see wp:music. Also the artciel about this is blatant off wiki canvasing. I sugest that some admins look into this.Slatersteven (talk) 13:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The coverage detailed above is sufficient to establish notability. This debate has, incidentally, made the news.--Michig (talk) 06:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per Minnesota Public Radio coverage.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like two RS (I am assuming that MPR is considerd RS< i have no idea about a local radio station in the US) Sp I will change to *Waek keep.Slatersteven (talk) 13:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)'''
 * I'd definitely call Minnesota Public Radio an RS -- they're a large network of stations, not just a local station, and they're closely associated with American Public Media. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:10, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Source noted by SoV looks very solid.--Cube lurker (talk) 18:00, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * To add to Paul Erik's point above, I found a write-up of a show they played in Denver in Denver's Westword weekly newspaper. This source provides additional support that they've toured beyond their home state of Minnesota.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Congress (talk • contribs) 22:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, considering the improved sourcing. bobrayner (talk) 23:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.