Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SWOT (manga)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Weekly Shōnen Jump. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 21:14, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

SWOT (manga)

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The article appears to fail the WP:BK guidelines as per MOS:AM. Searching on Google Books finds little to support a claim of notability and the article seems based on promotional material rather than anything than would demonstrate significant impact. PROD removed so raising for wider discussion. Note, you may wish to compare with Ōmagadoki Zoo created based on the same magazine. Fæ (talk) 11:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  -- Fæ (talk) 11:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  -- Fæ (talk) 11:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The subject has not received any significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources. I'll also note that the original author has once again added a plot summary that was copied from another website. Previously, it was an illegal scanlation website, this time from the publisher's website. —Farix (t &#124; c) 11:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep . Redirect to List of series run in Weekly Shōnen Jump. It's a verified part of Weekly Shōnen Jump, the largest comic book anthology distributed in Japan and origin of such notables as the Dragon Ball franchise, the One Piece franchise, and the Death Note franchise . On second thought, a redirect to Weekly Shōnen Jump may be more fitting. It's way too new to be considered notable. I'm sure that, given time, the subject may merit a separate article, but not now.--hkr Laozi speak  12:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And do comic books fall under the WP:BK guideline? They're published very differently from the method normal books are published. The general notability guideline applies better, I think.--hkr Laozi speak  12:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You might think so, but I was going by the specific guidelines of Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles) as mentioned in the nomination and developed by prior consensus. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 12:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see, just realised there's a Notability section under the MoS. Thanks, that clears things up.--hkr Laozi speak  12:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I would definitely oppose redirecting to the manga magazine. Weekly Shōnen Jump serializes hundreds of manga each year, most of which are never successful and generally forgotten. Shueisha, the magazine's publisher, literally takes a "throw on the wall and see what sticks" approach. —Farix (t &#124; c) 13:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Aren't those mainly one-shots though? They usually only release 8-10 actual series per year. Redirects are very useful to the user, especially if it's relevent like the nominated entry, and it's better than having a user see a redlink, recreate a page, and having that page go through the entire deletion process all over again. I guess that makes me a redirectionist, eh?--hkr Laozi speak  16:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete. Not seeing any indications of notability here. --DAJF (talk) 12:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Weekly Shōnen Jump per WP:BEFORE. Very new series, not yet notable.  Just as a tip, when nominating articles for deletion, manuals of style have no sway and mentioning them may be confusing. Using just the notability guidelines, when that is your concern, is better. If this met either the WP:GNG or WP:BK, it could be kept, but it does not seem to, yet. --Malkinann (talk) 18:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You appear to be missing the point of the above comments, MOS:AM explains how WP:BK should apply here. Consequently as the nomination states WP:BK is the notability guideline being applied, there is no confusion as one guideline directly refers to the other. Fæ (talk) 19:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I became confused in your nomination - your mention of MOS-AM, a style guideline, lead me to wonder if you thought that AFD is cleanup. WP:BK and WP:GNG apply to showing notability, MOS-AM doesn't.  --Malkinann (talk) 00:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of series run in Weekly Shōnen Jump. That's a big enough magazine that this manga may become notable in the future and thus worth keeping as a Redirect. Edward321 (talk) 01:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. CSE results are junk (even after filtering a score of domains), and no one has presented any interesting RSs. --Gwern (contribs) 19:47 30 October 2010 (GMT)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.