Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saad Usman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. As I've said elsewhere, the outcome of this discussion hinges on NCRIC, which has been challenged enough that overruling "delete" opinions based solely on this criterion doesn't feel right. A discussion about the status of NCRIC would be useful. Absent such clarification, this discussion is a "no consensus", defaulting to keep. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Saad Usman

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The article clearly doesn't meet WP:GNG. The sources in the article are simply directory/stats listings, which I believe do not establish notability. Have performed a WP:BEFORE and nothing came up. I've nominated two articles previously which were similar and they have been deleted (here and here). Editors over there cited the WP:CRIN guideline which is being debated itself and for it to change, precedent is needed, clearly those guidelines aren't being accepted and seem to me like they'll never be able to satisfy the GNG. Another argument given by editors on similar pages is given that sources in other languages might exist, I am thoroughly unconvinced by this as none of these sources have materialized and I feel like it's an argument which can be used anywhere; all an editor has to do is claim that sources exist. Please note I am a new editor and this is my understanding after trying my best to read as many guidelines and past discussions as possible, I could have easily made mistake, but I am just trying to be bold. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep the individual meets the notability requirements. The bigger concern is about this "new" user, which has been flagged by other editors, myself included.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 13:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG/BIO/SPORTBASIC. A great example of why there is consensus at NSPORT to rewrite NCRIC and remove the low-bar domestic appearance criteria. Just one solitary LA match played, contributing next to nothing. No sources available beyond routine and indiscriminate statistics. wjematherplease leave a message... 13:26, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete- fails our notability requirements, particularly WP:NSPORTS and WP:GNG. Reyk YO! 19:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets NCRIC. Mass-nominating articles (at a rate of >=3/min) from one third-world country during a world-wide lockdown is not the way to change notability guidelines. Meets an SNG and I put no stock on the assertion that a search for GNG has been exhausted; it's hard enough to achieve it during normal times and with better-studied subjects in more affluent parts of the world. Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep supporting the assertion of u|Usedtobecool. Northern Escapee (talk) 8:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Port Qasim Authority cricketers, which would need to be created. StickyWicket (talk) 21:09, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


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