Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saadaram


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 19:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Saadaram

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Nothing to indicate why this film is notable, no references except IMDB, and article is nearly all plot Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 05:20, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and fix through regular editing. Sources are available for this 16-year-old Malayalam film which bombed at the box office and yet was well received a few years later upon video release. The film has the sourcable participation of multiple India notables: A. K. Lohithadas, Krishna Kumar, Suresh Gopi, Lalu Alex, Geetha, Kaviyoor Ponnamma, Chitra, Sivaji, Madhupal, Sreenath, Mammukoya, Priyanka, and Bindu.  If it were unsourcable, a deletion would be a consideration, but we usually hold off on nominating 3-week-old improvable stubs... a better option being tagging them for concerns and allowing allow them to be improved through regular editing.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment (per WP:CSB, I'll await input from Cinema of India editors, ... those editors better able to find non-English sources)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:07, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:GNG.Stuartyeates (talk) 03:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * How? Why? Simply linking to a policy, without explaining how it applies to this discussion, is not likely to be considered by an administrator in deciding how to close this discussion. Please see WP:JUSTAPOLICY for further explanation. First Light (talk) 01:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The only source appears to be the IMDB, which is user-generated content and thus not a WP:RS. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep The sourcing is weak, but there is every indication that this is notable and sourceable with Malayalam and other Indian language sources. It certainly was a real movie, with several notable actors, and this mention-only in the Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema supports that it is probably notable enough in that country (under the spelling "Sadooram"). A cinematic bomb in the west, with equally notable actors, would surely merit an article. If this were a Biography of a Living Person I would !vote differently, but let's give this a chance to be developed over time. Just tag it instead, like User:MichaelQSchmidt suggests. First Light (talk) 15:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Good catch and clue. My thanks. I have often found searches for Indian film greatly hampered due the various spelling in English for various Indian stars and films... when who-ever covered it in English might use his own way of spelling something phonetically. I've seem "v" and "th" interchanged quite a bit... same for "i" and "y" and "ee"... as more often as not, names and titles will use double consonsent and vowels in one source and single consonsent and vowels in another. Apparently they have no hard and fast rule on such... with one simple name or title often being found under a dozen different spellings. Again, thanks much for the new clue  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Needs References and other links. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 00:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Comment - WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM may be more prudent than outright deletion of this article. Northamerica1000 (talk) 14:30, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:16, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep mainstream film with notable cast and crew. have added a couple of more refs now.--Sodabottle (talk) 08:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.