Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sab Kichu Bhene Pare (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. All arguments to delete are either made by now-blocked sockpuppets, or suspicious IP addresses that share the same misapprehension that sources have to be in English in order to warrant a page on the English Wikipedia. This is explicitly not the case in WP:N. Setting this unconstructive participation aside, all other participants seem to consider this probably sufficiently notable via its author and the foreign-language references available - though a Bengali-speaking editor could certainly assist in sourcing it more fully. ~ mazca  talk 10:29, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Sab Kichu Bhene Pare

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The book is not notable at all to be kept as an Wikipedia article, the book's author is not so notable also; the given references of this book are not strong enough to prove that the book is notable, please read Notability (books), and see if this book meets up the criteria(s) of having an Wikipedia article or not. Iniya Vale (talk) 12:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.67.159.194 (talk) 12:56, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2020 January 3.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 13:00, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:10, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Delete. Because:
 * The book has not won a major literary award.
 * The book has not been considered by reliable sources to have made a significant contribution to a notable or significant motion picture, or other art form, or event or political or religious movement.
 * The book is not, or never has been, the subject of instruction at two or more schools, colleges, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country.
 * The book's author is not so historically significant that all of the author's written works can be considered notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GullPark (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)  SOCK STRIKE. Britishfinance (talk) 10:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Since that is bengali novel written by Bangladeshi writer Humayun Azad. it is a Bangladeshi article, it is basically found in Bengali Wikipedia. Please search on google bn:সব_কিছু_ভেঙে_পড়ে and review sources via transliteration. 1 2 and probably those source can be passed to WP:NBOOK.- Nahal (T) 19:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , Plese provide English-language references for this book, in Bengali Wikipedia Bengali references are suitable, in English Wikipedia English references must be given; also please note:
 * Has the book been ever awarded?
 * Is the book is so popular?
 * Is the book author (Humayun Azad) popular like Humayun Ahmed in Bangladeshi readers-world? (not in foreign countries)
 * Please give strong logic on behalf of this book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.67.159.19 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nomination, no strong reference in English-language and the book is not notable at all, on the other hand the author of the book has no popularity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.67.159.130 (talk) 10:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This nomination is part of a series of nomination by a group of socks targeting articles on critics of Islam in Bangladesh. This is not a good faith nomination. The subject easily passes GNG.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Though nominated by a sock, an administrator must notice that this article has no strong and reliable English-language reference, it should be kept or not will be decided tomorrow finally as seven days since 3rd day of January is going to be completed tomorrow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.32.119 (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I am finding this discussion rather hard to follow due to the number of unsigned comments. However, I would note that per WP:NONENG, it is not true that "in English Wikipedia English references must be given", and also, the first "delete" !vote omitted the 1st criterion of WP:NBOOK, namely "The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews." A book only needs to meet one criterion of WP:NBOOK, so doesn't need to have won an award, etc etc. I am looking at the sources included to try to work out if they are reliable, independent, etc, and also trying to search for other reviews - not easy in a language I don't read. If those who do read Bengali know of other reviews, please add them. RebeccaGreen (talk) 05:27, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 13:14, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If I could find any single reference in English-language on behalf of this book I would have definitely added that to this article; This book has no resemblance with Things Fall Apart,   if anyone claims that Things Fall Apart written by Chinua Achebe is similar to this book that is a blatant lie.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.32.162 (talk) 15:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment - If the book is notable then English-language reference on behalf of this book could be found by google searching.
 * Comment: meta:Special:CentralAuth/Iniya_Vale (i.e. about the AfD nominator) says: "global account "User:Iniya Vale@global": set locked", and for "Long-term abuse". It seems that sock puppetry is an/the issue; I wonder how this may be reflected in the comments above. -- Hoary (talk) 08:45, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per . (ec) The nom as been globally locked as a sock, and I suspect the some IPs above may also be related; the 1st AfD was only in May 2019 and was closed as no consensus due to the amount of socking which prevented a proper discussion Articles for deletion/Sab Kichu Bhene Pare. Britishfinance (talk) 10:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


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