Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabit İnce


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. This article needs actual references, not links to newspapers that supposedly wrote about him and links to vague search results. If there are actual published articles that can be pointed to, I will consider undeleting. W.marsh 18:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sabit İnce

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Biographical article about Turkish poet fails WP:BIO, WP:RS and possibly WP:COI. Google brings up numerous unique ghits on "Sabit Ince", but they all seem to be in Turkish. Using the advanced Google search to return only sites in English, the list slims down to only 44 ghits, although few of them are actually in English, and none of them establish notability. Article was created by User:Sabitince (who replicates the article as his/her userpage). It's unclear from the article whether Sabit Ince is dead or alive, so it may or may not be WP:COI. There is also a page on the Turkish Wikipedia for Sabit Ince, and it was also created by a user named Sabit Ince. Ford MF 20:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page because it is identical with the nominated page:


 * Delete, a Turkish poet doesn't belong on an English Wikipedia. It does make sense to have him on the Turkish Wiki, but the poet just doesn't seem notable in the English-speaking countries.  *Cremepuff 222*  21:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment In fact, notable Turkish poets do belong on the English-speaking Wikipedia, just as notable English poets belong on the Turkish wikipedia. A topic is encyclopedic, or it isn't. There is no such concept as "Notable in Turkish but not notable in English"; Wikipedia aims for the sum of human knowledge, not the sum of Anglophones' knowledge, and so WP:N and WP:V establish no requirement for English sources. Your argument is basically "delete because I lack the required background knowledge to read the potential sources." That wouldn't be an acceptable argument on a math/science-related AfD, nor is it here. cab 22:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletions.   cab 23:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment, sorry, I didn't realize that, so I've striked out my vote.  *Cremepuff 222*  " As cool as grapes... "  20:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. cab is absolutely correct, a Turkish poet has as much right to be here as anyone.  But this one does not merit inclusion.  He lacks notability, he appears to have a fairly unremarkable life (for an artist, anyway), and I just don't see it.  Two months in prison and dropping out of law school does not make one all that fascinating.  Without some notability being demonstrated, delete. Unschool 04:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, with comment, The language of sources doesn't matter. If he's been written about, he's been written about, regardless of what language it's in.  However, this appears to be a biography of a guy writing about himself who fails our guideline for what people we  include. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 00:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep plenty of reliable sources on a simple Google search. Unfortunately, my Turkish is not good enough to create an article so tag it for some expert attention. Nuttah68 09:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Recognizing a name popping up on Google a lot isn't exactly a sterling proof of notability.  Ford MF 19:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. No, it isn't. That's why I qualified by opinion with 'plenty of reliable sources on a simple Google search'. Nuttah68 19:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Night Gyr and nom. Plus, he may be the one who wrote his article in the Turkish wikipedia as well - COI. Stellatomailing 18:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.