Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabreman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. &mdash; Coren (talk) 04:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sabreman

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This character does not assert notability outside of the its video game appearances. It is unlikely that any third party sources will ever talk about it outside of the context of the games, so it has no reason to exist. TTN (talk) 13:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. TTN (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as it is a character spanning more than 20 years of video games. That the character is linked to a series of video games is not a valid reason for deletion. It's like saying we should delete, say, Emma Frost because it's only connected to comics. // Liftarn (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're comparing a chick who has been in well over 200 comics, at least 7 games and 2 animations for the last 30 years to an old man whos 'spanning more than 20 years of video games' consists of 6 games and 2 cameos. I follow your point, but you could use a better example. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 19:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete; even though the article does double-duty as a character article and a series article, there doesn't appear to be anything the article can be based on, aside from a handful of plot summaries, some cameos, and some rumors. Nifboy (talk) 15:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ultimate Play the Game About as unconvincing an example of a bona fide character as you can get, in most games he's just 'Bloke B' who happens to have been given a name, as opposed to 'Bloke A' (Jetman). Compare the Knightlore image on the Ultimate Play the Game article to the screenshot of the player-character on Gunfright - spot the difference. One is Sabreman, the other is "Sheriff Quickdraw". The fact that the same character name has repeatedly been used in different games may mean something to the Stamper bros. but it's hardly the basis of an article. The GBA Sabre Wulf is so far removed from the originals as to be scarcely relevant and there's nothing indicating that this version of the character is any more noteworthy than the next. If the racing game does turn out to be more than a rumour then the article can always be reverted back. Someoneanother 22:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe we should keep this article as I will add this source to it. --Elisabeth Rogan (talk) 06:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, sources available don't seem to be sufficient. Stifle (talk) 16:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as it doesn't meet our sourcing requirements as seen in WP:GNG. There's one reliable third party source, but all it can do is verify its existence rather than offer anything constructive to verify the article's contents. That said, I would accept a redirect if deletion were deemed inappropriate, as User:Someone another has offered a pretty well-balanced look at this article's merits and problems. Randomran (talk) 16:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep on the basis of an easily found source. If there's that, there will be more. Contra TTN, third parties talking about game characters in the context of the game is quite enough; Same for athletes--almost all our sources for footballers talk about them in the context of their football. DGG (talk) 03:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete After doing various searches I can find nothing that would indicate this character meets the notability guidelines. When the character is mentioned it is only in reference to the games he appears in, there is nothing to build an article on. The games are notable, this character is not. RMHED (talk) 00:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.