Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sabrina Erdely


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Anarchyte  ( work  &#124;  talk )   07:34, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Sabrina Erdely

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Per WP:1E: "When an individual plays a major role in a minor event. . . it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event." This article is on journalist of no notability except for involvement in a journalism scandal. This scandal, concerning a single Rolling Stone article, is simply not monumental enough to warrant two articles. This one should be deleted or merged with A Rape on Campus. Coretheapple (talk) 14:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep This is almost WP:SNOWBALL. While it's true the Rolling Stone UVA article greatly increased her notability, you could easily argue for her notability as a journalist even before that. The RS mess just cemented it. Rockypedia (talk) 18:05, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. Virtually the entire biography is about the scandal. Pre-scandal work is the subject of three sentences in the article and is clearly insufficient to establish her notability. Coretheapple (talk) 13:03, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You are incorrect. There are three entire paragraphs devoted just to "The Catholic Church's Secret Sex-Crime Files", with multiple secondary sources. She also received a GLAAD Media Award for a previous story. For yet another previous story, she was a finalist for a National Magazine Award. Deadline Hollywood reported on a movie being developed on yet ANOTHER story, "Gangster Princess of Beverly Hills", that she wrote. Variety reported on a film project based on her story "The Girl Who Conned the Ivy League".
 * Your definition of "three sentences" is clearly different from mine. Rockypedia (talk) 20:19, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * If you add that, it still doesn't add up to a notable writer. Also the overall negative tone of this article, even with the Rape article excluded, bothers me. She is only marginally notable and the practice in BLPs is to delete or merge bios in such situations. Coretheapple (talk) 14:13, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)


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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete or merge possibly to A Rape on Campus as per nominator and WP:BLP1E. When I did this search it was all about Erdely's UVA story and the aftermath. I didn't see much indication that Erdely is notable as a journalist for anything other than the A Rape on Campus story.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2016 (UTC) Update: changing my view to Weak keep based on new votes (below) and yes notability can be gained by goofing up.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:10, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:30, 2 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:21, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep undoubtedly and obviously passes GNG - sourced to RS subject has been at the center of two landmark Rolling Stone articles and currently has two major motion picture options BlueSalix (talk) 01:01, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sabrina Erdely played a major role in a major journalistic scandal, with wide-ranging journalistic, cultural, and legal consequences. The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism Report focuses foremost on Erderly and her practices. For that reason alone, I think she is notable enough for a separate article, but she is also notable in her own right for her previous reporting. Ihateithurr (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep notability is earned in all kinds of ways, sometimes by making an infamous series of mistakes.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:53, 15 August 2016 (UTC)


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