Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sachi Matsumoto (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Sachi Matsumoto
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Recreated after being deleted in 2012 and not being restored after a deletion review, this article still lacks two sources, nor was I able to find two sources, which would evidence notability under WP:GNG. Additional sources welcome. j⚛e deckertalk 03:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete This is a case where the person fails per WP:ENTERTAINER as there is no major roles done, also per WP:GNG. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:ENTERTAINER #1 just fine. Was one of the main cast members in Penguin no Mondai which has over 250 episodes made.  They are listed as being in all the television shows.   shows all major roles in bold, so they've done others as well.   D r e a m Focus  11:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Dream those are both from the encyclopedia portion of ANN with has proved to be user edited and unreliable. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:15, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * There is no doubting this person was in a notable show that had over 250 episodes, they a main cast member in it. He was also a main character in Hikarian, which had over two hundred episodes.   Sounds like some major roles to me.   D r e a m Focus  03:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * While ANN's encyclopedia is not a reliable source, it can be used to verify (though not source) if a voice actor has had several major roles. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - I'm very much aware that I originally !voted delete in the original AfD, but since then I learned that she voiced Link in a few games. Yes, Link is well-known for not exactly being talkative, but still, a major character such as Link, isn't that enough to pass WP:ENTERTAINER? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well no, voicing a character that historically rarely, if ever speaks doesn't seem like a very good justification for making a special case of ignoring the root of the GNG. Sources are still paramount, and none of the roles listed seem like candidates for a strong likelihood of reliable sources and wide coverage. The article, after two AFD's still only has two sources and one of them can't be used to ascertain notability.SephyTheThird (talk) 00:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - Notability of voice actors is not determined by how many series they have been in, how big those series are or how famous those series are. It's determined by the same thing as every other article - wide coverage in third party reliable sources, none of which are demonstrated by this article to a reasonable degree. The Entertainer sub section is being used as an catch all excuse for articles that don't demonstrate notability without dealing with these core issues and it needs to stop. It's irrelevant how many episodes a show is if the voice provider only has a few lines here and there. If the provision of voices for individual roles is significant than it will be covered in sources suitable. Clearly, in this case it isn't and it should be subject to the same rules as any other page.  SephyTheThird (talk) 00:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. In the absence of any reliable third-party sourcing or in-depth coverage, it's hard to see how the basic notability criteria have been satisfied here. --DAJF (talk) 07:08, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 02:20, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 07:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.