Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sack of Budapest


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The result was no consensus. To delete, but consensus that something should be done editorially, i.e., redirect or disambiguate. May need more discussion.  Sandstein  11:56, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Sack of Budapest

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Budapest did not exist in 1241 (or at any time during the Second Mongol invasion of Hungary). There is evidence that the Mongols burned Pest, but no evidence in the cited sources that this event has ever been referred to as the "Sack of Pest" and certainly not as the "Sack of Budapest". Given the lack of material in this article, I would just change it to a redirect, but given that "Sack of Budapest" is a misleading redirect, I think outright deletion is the best course of action. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:43, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete There's no article here. Curro2 (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Battle_of_Mohi. --Sammy1339 (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice find for that redirect target. But again, I disagree with making this a redirect, because the title "Sack of Budapest" is misleading, seeing that there was no Budapest at the time. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:16, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, you're right. "Sack of Budapest" seems to refer to two distinct events, one in 1526 and another in 1956. --Sammy1339 (talk) 22:23, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Even the 1526 event can't truly be called the "Sack of Budapest" since Budapest did not exist as a unified city until 1873. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:33, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * We should probably make a disambiguation to every time the place now called Budapest was sacked. Multiple sources do refer to the 1526 event that way. --Sammy1339 (talk) 22:36, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I suppose that would work. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:40, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:06, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. North America1000 04:06, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Rename to Sack of Pest (1241) then redirect per Sammy1939. Budapest did not exist until a bridge was built to unite the cities of Buda and Pest.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:15, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and convert to disambiguation per Sammy. ansh 666 01:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and convert to dab page as per discussion between Sammy and WikiDan61. Title should remain Budapest (not everyone who uses Wikipedia is as conversant in history as folks like Peterkingiron), but when the dab is made, a redirect with the name he suggests should be created, pointing to the dab page.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:42, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:21, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as whether or not the current article, this still seems notable and acceptable and hopefully better improvable. SwisterTwister   talk  06:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.