Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sada-e-Umeed


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  06:27, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Sada-e-Umeed

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Good work but non-notable organization per Wikipedia standards, fails WP:NORG. Störm  (talk)  19:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 18:25, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep-secondary schools are presumed notable, see See [https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/55584663/Mainstreaming___Streamlining_Requisite_Strategies_in_the_Practice_of_Inclusive_Education_in_Nigeria___Pakistan.pdf?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DMAINSTREAMING_AND_STREAMLINING_THE_REQUI.pdf&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIATUSBJ6BABOTIT7OT%2F20200330%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20200330T211208Z&X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEPv%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCIQDO%2BHaWhsJcUoaZD8sNA637kQfmQbyYQyW%2FAie6UaiVrAIgbUy32hh6ZR19C3SWaDqeykEJD5J46UKjLIsW%2BCb4a6sqvQMI9P%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FARAAGgwyNTAzMTg4MTEyMDAiDJfrDO0wQocLPO9GGiqRA9Nc2NBVXutYxONaihyW2MaXY8%2BnpUZgYVuUkptXP4%2B2YHdpx6HYcMMSl1E663trhMlRY2yWHgwLVcK1lEHg6rvIlzPyN8vh9YJbVmoHI8vFgucysEx5F2lolBg%2FyNvzTAZd4jrU5uy9Bcvpj3NbIDmxubTb%2Fey1w%2Fw7oxeXptAg%2BjG5KRIBEY5gOyKskMoMu7JT5ietGcaM3K9OpSrBM4QEBBLUs8kp6A%2Be%2BLx7KMTiE0Wnw8hwImA8Qi4pnjei%2FDBnLp6ebDMgBH700BPXJuSsL2aI4fdchEGesFsVpkiWtMHCga07xm2Bs%2BDVAo5Js9awKrnWRO3U4J%2B7QUY8090at5tGVkILVRxg7DlJVZAT44qo3Kvx83%2FpSSIphuFXh%2BhJUs%2FZM1UlQTxc8YzV4Sux2eTG4XBv9U6q%2BZNcXTff3j17hQYZMtoW5kxel5McgHnWfK%2FBWDiY%2FAj4Ir9mkRzyoxt2Ukjm2mNeX369R8HpPu4kMVqv3XdP8RbL62KNXHbJ5ey%2FJCHv0BplcS7xceyzMNT3iPQFOusBDa6Howhbj4qMojfEKo7W1D5lhM5z6JTfvZJ8Gh5AKBg9nLS6q2sjWGBeT0Oen%2B1I7McTiDIZNJ8xiUg5J2G2hYWSwb39VoX3hxosiBpWCVA%2FrsaPsXgMMQ3t%2F%2BNaFw%2FurwEpG2DfJL24xxCJah3AET4FNaeAq42cXLVZpYGsHz4cVV0fxi2d5%2Fdpl1P99jQf5PA6QX27oiR4s2m4V8d0iJB727%2FfcOtOO0p1eTG8fHoTRl5uWuf2BES%2FFMKUO3eoWAneUTbbHm5slNXdWAqCrbtfZkLzMvZoEK5b0%2FUIXvGUZRwjOXuNXODwrg%3D%3D&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=4aa5bc6c4a535ca43e8cd2fa4dca9eaac55aeaa86dc6a51d59a00b237f3d060d Table 2: List of schools for the Special Needs Persons in Pakistan], page 15 and also the details in the article. They provide education to students including at the high school age level. Since this is a school for students with special needs it may not look quite the same as your typical Pakistani high school, but we should not discriminate against special needs high schoolers by deleting their schools while keeping the schools for fully abled children.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 * They are not default notable after a RfC in 2017. They have to pass WP:GNG, WP:NSCHOOL. Störm   (talk)  08:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment But even after 2017, this presumption has been repeatedly used at AfD. I don't see anyone treating other Pakistani secondary schools like this, stating from the beginning that the school is a "non-notable organization" and not providing evidence that it is less notable than other Pakistani schools. It seems less run-of-the-mill than most simply because it is a special-education school. Also, to do the question of whether it meets GNG justice you really need someone who is competent in the native language to evaluate sources.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 22:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per the arguments above. Ngrewal1 (talk) 00:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)


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