Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sadovision


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Mind matrix  20:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sadovision
Vanity, although there's enough confabulation & untruths around this article that one might be able to argue Hoax. Let's start with the article:
 * Article about an invention by one Mary deSade, submitted by Mary deSade. I'm already suspicious at this point.

So the fact that Mary DeSade submitted an article about her own Trademarked invention, means that's that is doesn't exist?


 * "Sadovision" is a modification of Apple QuickTime for use on a specific website, Pillow Fight Bood-Bath. I have selflessly devoted the time to investigate this webiste, & yes, it exists. From what I can tell, "Sadovision" is just bog-standard Apple QuickTime.

Amazon patented "One Click" and Apple (and others) accepted that based simply on the concept.

Now for the project:
 * "Pillow Fight Bood-Bath" is a performance art project funded by the "International Performance Arts Forum" (Google search turns up nothing); no wait -- on the website, the funding came from the "International Society for the Advancement of Performance Art" (another unsuccessful Google search).
 * No wait, it's not a performance art project, it's a documentary about a performance art project by Tamara Cruz, director of the documentary "Gulf War Syndrome". Only both Goodle & Internet Movie Database have never heard of either. And the profile about Cruz on the website doesn't provide much credibility that this person actually exists.
 * On the Pillow Fight Bood-Bath website, you can listen to Mary deSade discuss her work in leather, or in the nude. And yo can buy all sorts of stuff from Cafepress to support Pillow Fight Bood-Bath. I guess she's spent that entire grant by now, & is looking for any way she can to keep her website afloat.
 * By this point, I'm surprised to discover that the three actresses in this project do exist: Regina Russell, Zoe Paul, & Aysia Lee. One's clearly mired in supporting roles in B-movies, another is a British page 3 girl, & the third is an unknown young starlet. However, their biographies on this website mix fact & fantasy in different amounts -- & I have serious doubts that the "Regina Russell" who played "Mint" in this project is the same "Regina Russell" with an entry at IMDB & whose website at reginarussell.com is linked from Pillow Fight Bood-Bath. But I'm not surprised that only Aysia Lee mentions that she took part in this project.

By this point, I'm convinced that this is a soft-porn website, distinguished by an odd sense of humor & some web design skills. But otherwise unnotable, or am I just showing how out of touch I am with the latest internet experiences? -- llywrch 07:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Mary DeSade. Delete it if you want. I don't give a rat's **s. But a Google search of Sadovision comes up with 274 entries. And that was before my site started video podcasting.
 * Delete - bravo on going to the trouble to write such an in depth nomination. Not much more to say.   Blackcats 07:55, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per the tl;dr nomination. --Thephotoman 08:06, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Well said, Blackcats. Delete.—Stombs 08:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination and kudos to llywrch for the in depth investigation. Movementarian 10:22, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Sounds like the homework has been done to me. Musser 20:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete If sadovision is ever notable then we'll make an article based on that, not opinion and original research. Lotusduck 07:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Sadovisions is Trademarked. Yes it relies on Quicktime VR, though I could easily use flash or some other technology to dupllicate it. But no one (to my knowledge) has ever done what I have done with Quicktime VR. That is, tell a story.

Yes, naked breasts are shown! But it's hardly soft porn. There is no sex or even hints of sex. I guess showing nipples is a crime.

In Europe, the nudity would barely rate a glance. But I guess in America it's porn.

Someone show me where an artist has used VR photography to tell any kind of story before. It has never been done. I believe VR photography is at the beginning of it's art form. It's like movies when audiences were amazed simply by a train coming at them. Then characters were created, stories were told, dramas unfolded.

Sadovison is the first example of story telling through VR photography.

Yes, my website has a lot of comedy on it. But I didn't submit the comedy to Wikipedia. I stuck to the facts. Obviously I made up the actresses (Zoe, Asyia, Regina) bios. (Tamara is a real person, she just isn't very well known. She's a Latino commie and isn't interested in pushing herself onto iMBD.)

But Sadovision is real. I trademarked it, and others will copy it and are already copying it.

Delete this if you want. I don't care. But Sadovision isn't going away.

Mary DeSade


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