Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Safelayer Secure Communications


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus. Kungfu Adam ( talk ) 17:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Safelayer Secure Communications

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Speedy deletion disputed here. Please confirm that this is pure spam. -- RHaworth 14:58, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Confirmed. Fan-1967 15:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: looks like a company that wants to promote itself. --CyclePat 06:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Obliterate. Looks like an ad, walks like an ad...it's probably an ad.   // Josh Kagan Jrkagan 09:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC).
 * Keep. The company/product is notable for being certified, and implemented by the Spanish government and NATO.  While there appears to be a WP:COI, the written article is not WP:SPAM. John Vandenberg 22:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon joe 02:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Article is clearly WP:COI, would not exist if not for User Safelayer.mktg. Self promotion. Not noteable company, if it was they wouldnt have to make article themselves. Fails all criteria on Notability_(companies_and_corporations) under 'Criteria for companies and corporations'. Being a 'real' company does not make it noteable, every buissness does real buissness...--155.144.251.120 03:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Very, Very Weak Keep with Massive Cleanup Only - Because this is implemented by both the Spanish Government and NATO it is somewhat likely that a reader might want to look up information on the company here. However, this article reads less like information and more like a sales pitch.  If someone feels up to cleaning it up, it can stay.  Otherwise it needs to go, and if Safelayer's marketing department tries to recreate it again it should be immediately Deleted, Salted, and the company's domain should be blacklisted. --  Y&#124; yukichigai (ramble argue check) 05:28, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, at least provisionally, following cleanup. Probably needs the eye of an independent expert, but what I read - and specifically that this company's software is used by the Spanish gov't and NATO, suggests that it meets WP:CORP.  (And frankly, the self-promotion in the prose is not that bad, and at least is mercifully free of buzzword nonsense.) - Smerdis of Tlön 14:54, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Spam! /Blaxthos 18:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Rather weak keep and tidy it up to ensure it's non-advertising - as noted above, the use of its product by major governmental organizations seems to give enough notability. But, it definitely needs to be monitored to avoid promotional edits. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.