Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Safir Ahmed


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The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:44, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Safir Ahmed

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This seems to be an ordinary journalist and editor who has accomplished quite a bit but my searches found nothing to suggest improvement, here, here, here and here. The article has basically stayed the same since November 2005 and it looks more like a personal page than a Wikipedia encyclopedia, with the history suggesting editor s possibly close to Safir Ahmed. SwisterTwister  talk  22:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Keep The article needs improvement since it does read like a personal page, but he has received coverage in other sources and he seems to have made a significant contribution to his field. It appears he is notable for adding "fiscal cliff" to the English language. ABF99 (talk) 22:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to add this coverage you speak of because I'm not seeing much. SwisterTwister   talk  00:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Comment A search of High Beam reveals a number of articles like this one that mention or discuss this journalist, mostly related to his work as editor of the Riverfront Times in St. Louis. His 1989 usage of the term 'fiscal cliff' is also referred to  in the New York Times here  I will try and add  more sources as time permits. ABF99 (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


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Comment I agree that writing credits are few. Aside from his invention of the term 'fiscal cliff', his contributions seem more significant as an editor than writer, with these contributions badly sourced in this article. --ABF99 (talk) 18:23, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete As Nom says, this is an old article with extremely tenuous sourcing. Worse, searches come up with far less than one expects to see on non-notable working journalists and editors - very few writing credits, with stuff like his linked-in page right at the top of the search.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I took a look at the "fiscal cliff" claim, turns out the term was coined by a different journalist.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That's true, but for some time he was tentatively credited with coining the phrase, see Meet the Journalist Who (Possibly) Invented the Phrase "Fiscal Cliff" in The New Republic (November1 2, 2012). The correction came in Walter Stern's obit in the NYT one year later. Kraxler (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk   12:47, 15 August 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:08, 22 August 2015 (UTC)


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