Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saga Studios (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Jenks24 (talk) 11:40, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Saga Studios
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Not WP:NOTABLE, Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:18, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete the result was delete over six years ago (did the redirect somehow prevent this?) and nothing has been added to this unsourced stub since then. Doesn't seem to have made a ripple in any reliable sources (or with historians or film scholars) since then so it is time for it to go. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I should note there is one mention of the studio having made a Godzilla style film but that is hardly enough to build an article on. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: (sorry, editors need to ignore the 2008 AFD, which was apparently for a modern video game development studio by this same name. THIS Saga Studios is a Danish film production company that produced 81 films in the 38 years from 1936 (pre-WWII) through 1974. I'd be surprised if there was no Danish coverage at all. Books? History texts? Old news articles? If sourcable as part of Danish film history, we'd have an historic notability with no expectation that a company apparently disbanded in 1974 would remain in the news for 40 more years. Just sayin'.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 09:20, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - Thanks for clearing up the stuff about the old AFD. If the company was at all important in the history of film it should have received some comment in some "History of" research. Many film companies have come and gone. Just because they existed does not men that they meet WikiP's standards of WP:NOTABILITY. Just saying. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 12:07, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * A check of the Danish Wikipedia shows that they do not have an article for Saga Studios. Some of the companies films are listed though. Christian75 has done well in finding one mention but - to quote from WP:COMPANY "An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of "significant coverage" in reliable, independent secondary sources. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability." I only see "incidental coverage" from this source or any other at this time. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 12:47, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe they will one day. Maybe not. There are dozens of thousands of topics covered here that are not covered in smaller other-language Wikipedias, so what other Wikipedias do not cover is a non-argument. We do have WP:NTEMP to consider for companies no longer in existence. No topic need always remain in the news... and this is 40 years later.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)




 * comment - It will take time to find sources because you have to filter out all the articles which just add production: Saga Studio... But one source here from a Danish book (http://books.google.dk/books?id=mVtxIstd5TQC&pg=PA332&lpg=PA332&dq=%22saga+studio%22+berlingske&source=bl&ots=dVOU7gRy_5&sig=XFLja1Dth_WbXL3Zfc5WfFvdccg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rGf4U_rMJeTMyAORpIGgBQ&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=saga&f=false) Its called Saga Studio, Saga Studios and Saga studierne (danish) and just Saga. Christian75 (talk) 10:15, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as a stub -- Saga Studio was a significant producer of Danish films from 1942 to 1974 -- enough to be mentioned in the Danish Encyclopedia. (It produced the the comedy hits of Dirch Passer and the iconic Danish film Soldaten og Jenny). I expect there are plenty of non-internet book and journal sources. However, if we have consensus to delete, I suggest it be redirected to the studio's founder John Olsen (filmmaker). —  Cactus Writer (talk) 16:46, 23 August 2014 (UTC)




 * Weak keep of a suitable stub per being an historic part of the early film industry of Denmark. And I do agree that a redirect to John Olsen is a reasonable alternative to flat out deletion.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article needs alot of work doing but that by no means is a reason to delete, Simply needs some TLC and some hard digging, Also in 2mins I found a book so notability is there - Just takes some time finding. – Davey 2010  •  (talk)  02:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Created that many films = notable (there will exist sources, although as noted mostly will be off-line due to time period or hard to find for non-Danish. -- do  ncr  am  21:51, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - The company behind a substantial number of Danish blockbusters including the movie Paw (film), a film nominated for an Academy Award (Best foreign). There are several sources, both online and print. I will try to dig a little bit.  Pugilist (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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