Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sagar Homoeopathic Medical College


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The result was Keep. Ekabhishektalk 03:20, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Sagar Homoeopathic Medical College

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I know institutions are WP:INHERENTly notable but I say this is such a mess it should be WP:TNTd to encourage creation of a better article per WP:REDLINK. Laun chba  ller  11:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not just no evidence of notability, no evidence at all. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Plenty of passing mentions on listings websites but nothing that establishes notability. Philg88 ♦talk 14:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a recognised college. see here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyamsunder (talk • contribs) 10:37, 4 June 2014
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Philg88 ♦talk 05:01, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as its recognized by Madhya Pradesh State Council of Homeopathy. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 05:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * An entry in a directory list published on the MP State Council for Homeopathy website is neither "significant coverage", nor is it independent, since a subscription is required to join this body. In short, it does nothing for notability. Furthermore, this is a private college, not a recognised educational institution. Philg88 ♦talk 05:13, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * An entry in a directory list of recognition means a lot. It means the college has been through a lot of government paperwork for its establishment. These have been revalidated by the council and thus deemed fit to be recognized by it. When a state government formed council recognizes an educational institute, it makes for all the notability that it should have. Now they not having regular tree-plantation events which media would cover or they not inviting celebrities to dance at their annual functions is trivial. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 05:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tree planting and dancing might well contribute to notability, but so far all we have done is to establish that the college actually exists. It possesses no inherent notability whatever the government may say and it must satisfy the requirement for "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" per WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Philg88 ♦talk 06:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And establishing existence is sufficient per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES for such degree-awarding institutions. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 07:11, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is an essay, not a policy and cannot override the general notability guideline. Homeopathy is not a recognised scientific discipline, so awarding degrees in it carries no institutional/academic weight. Philg88 ♦talk 09:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Its an essay based on wide consensus which cannot be challenged at this forum. And if homeopathy is no good science per you, that's a reason to get the article Homeopathy deleted, not this article. Btw, homeopathy is a better science than studying how to make objects fly or staring at globes, the institutes of which have articles on WP. I know WP:OSE. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 11:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We can debate this all day but the simple truth is that per WP:ORG, this college has insufficient evidence of notability to warrant stand-alone coverage. Looked at from the perspective of content, the article consists of two sentences and an infobox. The other sections merely duplicate this information. The entire topic could be covered in a two line mention in Sagar, Madhya Pradesh. Philg88 ♦talk 13:42, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:TOOLITTLE and WP:Nothing is in stone. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 17:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per above - No evidence of notability whatsoever. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  07:23, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - I believe that the principle we apply at AfD, that all high schools of proven existence are inherently notable, should logically be extended to colleges. Per the link of Dharmadhyaksha, this college exists; therefore it should be included in WP. I feel this way regardless of my personal view of Homeopathy — that it is a 16 ton dumptruck load of horse shit. If it is a high school, we include it; if it is a college, we should include it. Makes sense to me... Carrite (talk) 11:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It was established in 2002-03 and has 50 seats. Enough to fill many dumptrucks. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 04:40, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - This article should stay according to WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. I'm repeating Carrite's words "all high schools of proven existence are inherently notable". So I also think this article should stay.   J i m Carter  ( talk ) 15:12, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Philg88 ♦talk 15:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. I agree with Carrite - both on the inherent notability and the horseshit. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:03, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. Since the college is notable that's why it is affiliated to this university which itself is notable and providing Bachelors degree in BHMS. A.Minkowiski_Lets t@lk 18:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per Carrite. HS or higher with proof it exists should automatically be considered notable.  Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  19:18, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Move to Dr. Hari Singh Gour University. Then it can be expanded there, until it is ready to be an article of its own.Jeff5102 (talk) 19:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete This is unremarkable. Nothing notable at all. Wannabeeditor6 (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Its existence has been proven, and it meets WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Homeopathy happens to be a major school of treatment in India; whether it is a "science" or not is not the scope of this debate or the article in question. --Dwaipayan (talk) 00:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

No point in having a full RM for this when this can be dealt with much more quickly here. I know this sounds daft, but is it Homeopathic or Homoeopathic?-- Laun  chba  ller  10:23, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Homeopathic/Homoeopathic
 * It appears to be "Homoeopathic" as the name of the college in the sources given - eg http://mpschbhopal.nic.in/college%2012.html. Google searching appears to confirm, eg see http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/69145642.jpg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZk_N8dAOqM. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


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