Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sahar Qumsiyeh (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  12:01, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Sahar Qumsiyeh
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Fails WP:GNG and I cannot find anything to show how she meets WP:NPROF. Deletion discussion in August 2019 closed as delete and no sources since that time establish significant coverage in my opinion. CNMall41 (talk) 08:56, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Academics and educators,  and Palestine. CNMall41 (talk) 08:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Comment Delete. It is hard to see a source of notability here. WP:Prof certainly is not passed, even in this low cited field. Does GNG help? Xxanthippe (talk) 09:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC).
 * I though I found one when doing a WP:BEFORE, but turns out its just a brief about a podcast she was on. There is also an article written by BYU but that is an education pub and not really independent since she is a graduate of and employed by BYU. Nothing else I could find that could really count for GNG. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Latter Day Saints.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep.I respect the opinions and enjoy the conversation on this topic. Admittedly, Qumsiyeh's significance is debatable--but I would argue it is not conclusively exclusionary. I also think we should step back and remember Wikipedia aims to be a comprehensive and inclusive source of knowledge, reflecting the diversity of human experience. By creating an article for an underrepresented race and woman, we contribute to a more comprehensive representation of individuals and communities worldwide. I found only 22 articles on Wikipedia on Palestinian women. That seems shockingly low. In defense of the sources cited, Qumsiyeh was sought out as an expert on the recent events in Gaza by The Salt Lake Tribune--an independent, 150 year-old newspaper. She is a published author and speaker. She is cited in Google Scholar. If we are debating her merits--and in light of her unique background--the tie should go to the runner and we should err on including more of the diversity of the human experience. Fullrabb (talk) 14:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's aim is governed by policies and guidelines, including those related to notability. I agree we need to have more articles for underrepresented topics, but they need to meet notability guidelines in order to do so unfortunately. Can you provide the sourcing that shows she meets either WP:GNG or WP:NPROF?--CNMall41 (talk) 06:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete, possible redirect. Very little sign of WP:NPROF notability, in particular, citation levels are trivial in a medium citation field.  I'm not seeing any clear WP:SIGCOV for GNG notability.  There are a couple of reviews of the subject's book in some sources that are closely or loosely associated with the LDS church, but I'd be looking for a second book for NAUTHOR.  Redirecting to a stub on the book is a possible alternative to deletion, but I'm uncertain (and a bit skeptical) of the independence of the reviews. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:44, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Idaho-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:40, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Clearly does not pass WP:PROF. One published book is unlikely to be enough for WP:AUTHOR and I found no published reviews that would help in that regard. No evidence of any other kind of notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mathematics-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I dont see a case for notability neither under NAUTHOR nor NPROF, this may simply be a case of WP:TOOSOON. --hroest 14:31, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


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