Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Said the Sky


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MelanieN (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Said the Sky

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Notability unable to be established. - Shiftchange (talk) 23:59, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

I can't see anything to distinguish this artists from thousands of others. At the moment the page is basically a list of music releases. That belongs elsewhere, say at a website like discogs.com, but not here. - Shiftchange (talk) 22:06, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Said the Sky has worked with Skrillex before. He also collaborated multiple times with Illenium and Seven Lions. He also has a verified Facebook page. Facebook do not verify pages of random musicians. Illenium has had songs on charts before as well as official remixes for other notable producers like The Chainsmokers, Galantis and Kaskade. I just added a ref. - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 08:17, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you able to prove that one of these criteria has been met? - Shiftchange (talk) 00:58, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Criterion 7 has been met - "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style" - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I asked for proof. What reliable source supports that claim?  Which music style?  Dubstep - that article doesn't mention Said the Sky, therefore he can't be that prominent.  There is still no reason given for this article to stay.  Notability has not been established. - Shiftchange (talk) 10:09, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I cited a link to a reliable source (Billboard) which stated that Said the Sky supported another artist and usually only notable artists could support other artists. Ref 22 on the article. - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * In my experience that wouldn't be enough to survive deletion. You stated that criterion 7 has been met but provided no reliable source which supports that claim. We can't take your word for it, that isn't the way it works here.  Then you claim he must be notable because he has worked with another artist. I cannot see that on the list of criteria.  Your best bet would be to find multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician.  Without that or any other criteria being met its unlikely to be here for long. - Shiftchange (talk) 23:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it's wise if you let EDM-expert editors to take your place on this discussion (because you said on another page that you don't know well about music articles) as I think he is notable enough and has worked with one of the greatest dubstep musicians of all-time, Skrillex. I already cited a reliable source to him being notable so that concludes this dispute, unless you want to have a 3rd party opinion on this. - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 10:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The trouble is the references as it stands are actually terrible - if I were to comment on this AFD it would be "delete as it stands" and "WP:TNT, it reads like a puffed-up press release". I'm willing to be convinced but it'd have to be convincing - David Gerard (talk) 12:14, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:43, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Doesn't appear to have received coverage from reliable sources, and at this early stage in his career the other criteria of WP:NMUSIC are not likely to be satisfied. --Michig (talk) 06:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Billboard, Dancing Astronaut, YOURedm are reliable sources. Dubstep fans know he's one of the most notable figures in this style so that meets one of the criteria. - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 09:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Billboard and Dancing Astronaut references are passing mentions and not WP:significant coverage. A single interview with an emerging artist is not sufficient and that is the only source that is credible. noq (talk) 10:58, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Here's a list of media coverage for Said the Sky, given by his manager - Rizzal Hopper (talk) 22:20, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. No works that have charted or won significant awards; nothing to support notability per WP:MUSICBIO.  Magnolia677 (talk) 19:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:33, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


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