Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sail Labs Technology


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The result was delete.  Majorly   (hot!)  16:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sail Labs Technology

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Has been speedied more than once for copyvio from the company's website and as spam. The creator of the article, Desertson is quite up-front about his COI and has reduced it to a stub. Does winning a European ICT Prize make the company notable? -- RHaworth 07:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment about EuroICT Prize: they grant dozen or two awards every year (to almost 10% of nominees). Pavel Vozenilek 07:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment 2: if kept the article ROSIDS (their product) should be merged, if deleted it should be deleted as well. Pavel Vozenilek 08:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment 3: the same applies to TREVENTUS, an article started today. Commenting as someone who once dealt with scanning software, from a quick look on the TREVENTUS website: it provides software features available in quite a few products (and black border removal is automatic in at least two products I know about). Naturally, the features in TREVENTUS may be implemented better than the rest. Pavel Vozenilek 08:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

So if I am here are my two cents if I am not please feel free to delete me and accept my appologies! The ICT prize is quite a cool thing and was actually pretty hard to get. If I remember correctly it was 451 companies that made the contest hurdle of which 20 where selected. ROSIDS is not like the Babelfish to put that clear all it does is do speech to text and run that through a tuned machine translation, which by itself is very cool but compared to the other things SAIL is working on (I hope here I can write it and I hope it will be in the WIKI entry soon) which include a full speech to speech computer system fades a bit (currently deployed in a Middle East warzone).... So I hope that the people that know SAILs work contribute and that this will stay. ...and by the way in the media like German TV station ARD, ZDF and print like the Austrian Standard, German Spiegel it was referred to as the "nobel prize for IT". Hope this helps and I hope more contribute! Kind regards, Desertson 11:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * under the conflict of interest rule, am I allowed to write here? I am not sure and I have gotten so much stuff deleted that I am really confused and frustrated...
 * Keep and merge in the products mentioned. This is a well-known company, but one article will do.DGG 03:18, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless references are cited to provide evidence that this is a well-known company, etc. Stifle (talk) 20:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Article lacks independent references. The coolness of the tech has no bearing.  We need to satisfy WP:N to keep this article. Jehochman (talk/contrib) 22:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Jehochman. Interesting, but no reliable sources. I don't object to re-creating it later if sources are found. EdJohnston 15:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I added another source ... a paper published by CMU at NIST, if this is a conflict of interest thing then please delete!Desertson 17:12, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Because of the COI situation it is preferable if you offer such a reference on the Talk page, rather than adding it to the article. This particular paper is co-authored by a participant in the Sail project, so it doesn't constitute any form of 'third party commentary.' Since it's not peer-reviewed or issued by a known publisher, it's not a reliable source either. It's apparently one of a series of non-peer-reviewed working papers that is explained at this TRECVID site. EdJohnston 17:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Stub with no established notability. - BierHerr 16:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Unsigned comments that were cluttering the discussion

 * Keep User:Vienna_Angel the prize goes out to 20 most innovative companies in Europe. In 2006 close to 500 made it to the qualification level (rest was swept out before) and this brings the number down to less than 5% of the contenders. I by chance know Treventus and that stuff is pretty cool, if you also look at the video on the ICT site you can see the scanner... On SAIL the ROSIDS system, I think there is also a video on the sail website under the link, seems to be like the that fish from hitch hiker´s guide to the galaxy, only that this one provides close caption... — Vienna Angel (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep Well, Sail Labs isn't a BIG company, but they are doing interesting stuff. If the article stays, they should be linked to Hidden Markov Model and master thesis which is my masters thesis I did there and I don't work there anymore. (eisber) — 62.178.212.161 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep Desertson knows is shit. Also, even if the company is limited by actually having to turn out profit, it still supportsopen forums which are run by other experts. I don't think the answer is to only support articles that come from government-supported and subsidized entities. After all, private companies ensure TTM faster. — 85.180.174.89 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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