Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Mary's Catholic Church (Cascade, Iowa)


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The result was delete. Despite the calls for merging, no one actually demonstrated that there enough verifiable content to actually merge anything and the merge target does not even exist or is shown to be notable itself. SoWhy 20:16, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Saint Mary's Catholic Church (Cascade, Iowa)

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This building does not appear to meet the requirements for inclusion under WP:NCHURCH. Dolotta (talk) 05:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * See also related Articles for deletion/Saint Martin's Catholic Church (Cascade, Iowa), which should be considered and closed together. --Doncram (talk) 22:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 06:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 06:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. MT TrainDiscuss 06:06, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

http://www.migenweb.org/kent/churches/catholic/StMarysCathCascade.htm Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:07, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, would need to substantiate this building as being historic or otherwise of note... is it? According to this link, it was built in 1889, so it is historic.
 * Keep per one source above and this. Excelse (talk) 07:55, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The link User:Excelse gave appears to refer to a church in Cascade Township, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania. Smmurphy(Talk) 18:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment If one looks at List of the oldest churches in the United States, it doesn't take long to realize that the mere fact that a church has been around a while doesn't necessarily mean that it is notable. I'd wager that three quarters of British churches have been around for at least that long. It also appears, to me at any rate, that the reference immediately above is a passing reference to a couple's marriage. -- Dolotta (talk) 10:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge. Per my similar comment at related ongoing AFD Articles for deletion/Saint Martin's Catholic Church (Cascade, Iowa), I think the St. Mary and St. Martin church articles should be merged to one about the successor, the real-life merger target named St. Matthias church or similar.  The photo in the Saint Mary's article shows a very substantial church which goes to demonstrating significance, and covering both predecessors makes sense in a St. Matthias church/parish article (which gets some of its supporting significance from the predecessors).  Unfortunately my finding the correct target article is delayed as there seems to be no proper disambiguation yet for many St. Matthias Church places, St. Matthias Church is currently a redlink but will become a disambiguation page soon.  So wait a little bit and there will be a Saint Matthias Church (Cascade, Iowa) or similar which can serve as the proper merger target. --Doncram (talk) 22:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom, doesn't pass WP:GNG, just because a building is old doesn't mean it is notable. A merge is not appropriate either since neither church passes GNG alone, so why would they pass GNG together?--Rusf10 (talk) 23:47, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:32, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

*Merge as per Doncram.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:12, 23 February 2018 (UTC) Deleete. I cannot source either church.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge as proposed by Doncram, the notability should be easier for 3 churches Atlantic306 (talk) 16:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge (if kept) as the Catholic Parishes have merged. The merged article should be St Matthias, since that is the present name.  However, is either church more than a NN local church?  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


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