Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Preux


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The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 21:34, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Saint Preux

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Unsourced BLP since early 2008, a source search turned up nothing sans a couple copy-pastes of us. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Actually the source for most of the article was the bio on the official site . I tried to tone down the language ("finally achieved his breakthrough", "able to work all nights long on his second composition"), but agree that it could be improved further. I don't see why the whole article should be deleted as a BLP, but would be fine with deleting the Biography section. --asqueella (talk) 01:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

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 * This is one of the harder to search cases I've found; both the stage and real name produce dozens of false hits. That said, the one solid news-ish reference is the one Billboard mention. I'm going to have to say delete for lack of adequate coverage. Mangoe (talk) 13:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. I agree that it's very hard to research. His main composing career was primarily from 1970 to the late 1990s in Europe, for which there are very few online press archives available. But this in Google Books verifies that his Les cris de la Liberté was composed and played for the Bicentennial of the French Revolution with multiple performances in Paris . This  (in Italian) says that one of the musical references in Wyclef Jean's 1997 album The Carnival was to Saint-Preux's Concerto Pour Une Voix (Concerto per una voce). Many of his recordings were originally released on vinyl or early cds and audio cassette and are hard to document, but assuming the documentation on Amazon is correct, My Prophecy was released by Sony, Concerto Pour Une Voix on Accord Records (quite a well-known label in the 80s and 90s) , 20 Ans on BMG , The Last Opera on Sony France , his 2005 Concerto Pour deux Voix on Warner. . Many others of his were released on Pomme Music (a well-known French independent label) and there's a reference in Billboard to him being signed by CBS France in 1972 . The discography alone meets criteria 5 of WP:MUSICBIO and arguably criteria 3. for WP:COMPOSER Voceditenore (talk) 12:03, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * More There's a fairly lengthy review of his 1973 LP album Concerto pour une Voix, which also has several other of his compositions in Gramophone, May 1973 (It was re-released on CD in 1995). The single recording from it by Danielle Licari was a huge hit it France . There's more about in L'Express which says that it was also recorded by Dalida,  Maxim Saury, Caravelli, Aimable, and Raymond Lefèvre. It also recently appeared on this album by Andre Rieu. According Billboard, 22 August 1970, the Licari version entered the charts in Japan at #20 and Mexico at #10. He's also listed as one of the artists on CBS France's roster that had achieved "consistent chart success" in Billboard, 14 Jul 1973. I'll update the article with all these refs later today or early tomorrow, unless someone does it first. Voceditenore (talk) 14:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep per Voceditenore.4meter4 (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
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