Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Simeon Catholic Cemetery


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver. Please merge anything of value into Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver and then create a redirect to that article, thank you. Missvain (talk) 16:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Saint Simeon Catholic Cemetery

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Non-notable cemetery. Not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't meet WP:GEOFEAT.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  17:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  17:04, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings. This cemetery has been registered by the U.S. Geological Survey has a significant geographic location. A citation to the USGS has already been made in the article including the GPS coordinates.https://geonames.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=GNISPQ:3:::NO::P3_FID:2040742 This cemetery appears on the Find-A-Grave website which includes 1,213 photos of grave markers at the cemetery. https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2216753/saint-simeon-catholic-cemeteryJeffrey.Wilson.OSF (talk) 17:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately we don't consider either of those links reliable sources for determining notability. SportingFlyer  T · C  10:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

A general question to the community. When someone selects the categories "Cemeteries in Colorado" and "Roman Catholic cemeteries in the United States", are they to assume that these lists are comprehensive? If this is not a reasonable assumption, then should those categories be modified to state "Notable Cemeteries in Colorado" and "Notable Roman Catholic cemeteries in the United States". Just curious. Thank you for your feedback. Jeffrey.Wilson.OSF (talk) 14:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * - it depends on the list. There are certain lists which not limiting it to notable entries would make it impossible, e.g. List of people from Phoenix. However, when a list can be contained to a reasonable degree, then it does not have to be limited to only notable entries. Categories, however, are only given to notable entrants, so no, those are not comprehensive, and since they are not lists, changing the title is irrelevant. Onel 5969  TT me 18:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete -- The vast majority of local churches are NN. The same should apply to cemeteries.  In answer to Jeffrey Wilson, any one who regularly uses WP will know that only notable subjects have articles.  Only articles are categorised.  Accordingly, it is implicit in the category system that only notable cemeteries will appear.  Mere existence is not enough to have a WP article.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:59, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * delete No real claim to notability, which is understandable given that this appears to be a relatively new cemetery. Mangoe (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - a quick read of news articles shows it's the choice of eternal rest for many notable or at least locally important persons. FWIW, my cousins live nearby and I've met then-Bishop Chaput, who consecrated it. Bearian (talk) 18:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per the nom. Fails WP:GNG due to lacking sustained independent WP:SIGCOV of the topic. It only has local coverage because it's just a local cemetery. Notability is also WP:NOTINHERITED, so it's meaningless however many or whose obituaries mention it. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver who own and run it, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Denver; I've added a "Cemeteries" section to that page. Many cemeteries are not notable, and I see no sign this (fairly new) one is; however there is an obvious merge/redirect target to have a list entry. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 02:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


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