Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saints-Vikings Rivalry


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn in light of new sources. (non-admin closure) Frank Anchor Talk 11:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Saints-Vikings Rivalry

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Clear fail of WP:GNG. No rivalry exists between these two teams. This is evidenced by a simple google search of Saints Vikings rivalry which has few hits, most of which being either WP:ROUTINE coverage of a game between the two teams or opinion pieces from either New Orleans or Minnesota writers, this is a clear fail of WP:LOCAL. The Wikipedia article only has one reference that mentions the term “rivalry,” an opinion by a Saints beat writer in a blog that calls itself “a New Orleans Saints community.” The balance of the sources are individual game summaries which do not establish the existence of a rivalry. Further, the article notes the teams met five times in the playoffs. While impressive, that is WP:OR in establishing a rivalry. Frank Anchor Talk 03:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: I move to withdraw the nomination based on the additional secondary sources brought forth by User:Jackmar1 and User:BeanieFan11. The article is still poorly written but these two users have shown that there is enough to establish a rivalry between the two teams.  With no “delete” votes present, a non-admin close can be in order..  Frank Anchor Talk 01:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  Frank Anchor Talk 03:29, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
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Jackmar1 Talk

I added two additional sources, one of which describes the Saints as a top five rival of the Vikings and other a Minneapolis Star Tribune article discussing the rivalry. These two teams have played many meaningful games in the last 20 years and there has been lots of chirpiness as the article stated. The Packers & Giants currently have a rivalry page and there is certainly no rivalry there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackmar1 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, all of these sources are blogs or local newspapers based on either Minneapolis or New Orleans, which fails WP:LOCAL. Notable rivalries are mentioned as rivalries in national outlets (ESPN, CBS sports, etc.).  You also bring up the Packers and Giants having a page even though pointing out other articles is not a valid argument in AFD debates (for what it’s worth, I agree the Giants-Packers page should also be deleted but this debate is for the Saints-Vikings page).  Frank Anchor Talk 15:10, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment I don't have time now but a quick search found this and this: part 1/part 2. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:52, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Here is a quote from a Sports Illustrated article (national source) that said "There was major news involving two of the Vikings' biggest rivals, the Packers and Saints, on Sunday."Jackmar1 (talk) 18:00, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


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