Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sajanke


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:07, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Sajanke

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Fails WP:GNG. I've looked for sources on and off for years now and never got anywhere. The article has been tagged since at least 2012 and was previously mass-nominated for deletion here. Sitush (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 21:05, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 21:05, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Consider the three volume set: Ibbetson, Denzil, and H. A. Rose. A Glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province. Patiala: Languages Department Punjab (1883). available on archive.org. Volume 2 has entries on the Chaddrar on page 145 which references Chhadhar on [page 158] and is probably a reference to the Chadhar tribe, of which this article says the Sajanke are a clan. That page (158) lists 8 chief tribes of the Chhadhar (Rajokes, Kamokes, Jappas, Luns, Pajikes, Deokes, Ballankes, and Sajokes); one of which is the Sajokes, possibly referring to this clan. Sajanke would show up on [page 346 (or 401 if spelled Shajanke, for what it is worth) of volume 3], and doesn't appear there.
 * A second possible source is Gazetteers of different Punjab districts, particularly: Gazetteer of the Jhanq District. Punjab Government Press, 1884, where we can read about the Chaddhars on [page 64]. Here, four subfamilies (Jappas, Rajokes, Sajankes, and Kangars) are mentioned, and in which the Jappas and Kangars are mentioned as having representation of a zaildar or feudal tax collector in the Raj (note: the book is from 1884).
 * So, while this group certainly exists, and while it may be a common surname in some area, I don't see any good grounds for a claim to notability, nor any use in keeping it as a disambiguation for people that have this surname (as there are currently none with articles that I can find). That said, If the Chadhar or Chhadhar article existed (see Articles for deletion/Chadhar), I would !vote redirect to there.
 * I also note that Sitush's contribution to the Chadhar AfD seems very level headed, and my feelings are that while a British Raj source may not be unreliable, it would need to be put in context if used as a source. And in this case, passing mention by a moderately reliable source at best is not sufficient. In my opinion, this article does not meet GNG. Smmurphy(Talk) 22:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete as per Smmurphy's comments. I can't really add significantly to that excellent summary, but I'm adding my !vote to demonstrate that it's not just a consensus of one. --Slashme (talk) 14:05, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


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