Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sal Panto Jr.


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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions don't really address the sourcing problems.  Sandstein  09:15, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Sal Panto Jr.

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Fails WP:NPOL. All coverage relates to his political career, which consists solely of two separate stints as mayor of a smallish Pennsylvania city. Fails NPOL as all coverage relates to his political career, which reaches its pinnicle well below the threshold required. Note that as NPOL supercedes WP:GNG, it isn't applicable. John from Idegon (talk) 17:53, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: Currently, there are three articles in Category:Mayors of Easton, Pennsylvania, so if being mayor of Easton is insufficient to warrant inclusion in Wikipedia, maybe those articles could be examined for notability as well.  Also, I'd like to point out that this article has been the subject of promotional editing by at least three single-purpose accounts including one whose username matches the subject, so there is a likely COI issue here as well.  TimBuck2 (talk) 20:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:59, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * DeleteSir Joseph (talk) 19:01, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a city of 26,800 is too small to presume notability for its mayor under WP:NPOL. The article is promotional in tone, while the coverage is routine. K.e.coffman (talk) 19:50, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep The City of Easton is important as the county seat of Northampton County, Pennsylvania (population 297,735), and for Lafayette College. The mayor works closely with the college on civic matters, and hence the Honorary Doctorate in 2011.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Being the seat of its own county is not enough to render a small city able to hand its mayors a free notability boost over other mayors of similarly sized places — that is not what POLOUTCOMES means by "cities of regional prominence". If all you had to do to make a city "regionally prominent" was to keep reducing the size of the "region" until you had created one small enough to make a "the city is prominent within this set of boundaries" claim, then we'd have to keep an article about everybody who was ever mayor of a village of two — because you could always just keep shrinking the box more and more. In a city this size, the make or break condition is "who have received significant press coverage", not "is the seat of its county" — but the depth and breadth of press coverage here is not adequate to pass that test, because any mayor of anywhere could always show this much purely local coverage. Bearcat (talk) 20:47, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - The mayors of Easton have have traditionally held an out-sized, influential role in Pennsylvania and Lehigh Valley politics and business, despite the small population on paper. Panto is no exception and Easton is no "village". Disagree on the depth and breadth, the coverage is absolutely there. Agree with the points made by Dthomsen8. Scanlan (talk) 21:56, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Where's the "there" that enough coverage to get him past GNG "is", exactly? It's not enough to just say that enough coverage to pass GNG exists, because anybody could simply say that about any article topic; you have to actually show the evidence that enough coverage to pass GNG exists. Bearcat (talk) 08:09, 30 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Where are these sources? Are there sources that show widespread detailed coverage of his political career? Certainly if this burg is so politically important, the man would be covered in the New York Times, which is after all, located less than 100 miles away, or in the Philadelphia Enquirer, which is less than 50 miles away. Or perhaps you are referring to extensive coverage of his life beyond politics? Please, do share these enlightening sources. John from Idegon (talk) 09:09, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:NPOL. I ran a good faith news archive search on "Sal Panto", hundreds of hits, bu teverything in the first several pages was local and routine. Fails WP:GNG.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


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