Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sallah Sultan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is that this is a negative BLP with weak sourcing. v/r - TP 12:20, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Sallah Sultan

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Main claim to fame is making controversial remarks. The part about a noted scholar is dubiously sourced. According to the Newark Advocate, it was a "guest column", but I can't see the whole article. The claim has been repeated since in other pubs, but I still don't see who is saying it. The LA Times cite just calls him a "scholar" in passing. Bbb23 (talk) 17:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added a few more references, but I'm not sure if this meets the notability requirements.(Hyperionsteel (talk) 18:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC))
 * Either way, it's helpful for the purpose this discussion, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. This being a BLP, we need to be strict about balance and sourcing.  It is clear that if it wasn't for the pro-Israeli advocacy group MEMRI nobody would have ever heard of him.  More generally, there is hardly anything left after MEMRI and settler mouthpiece Arutz Sheva (aka Israelnationalnews) are excluded. Nothing suggests anything notable apart from saying some obnoxious things. Zerotalk 12:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not wiki material. --BweeB (talk) 20:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Frankly, for purposes of this AfD it doesn't make a whit of difference whether or not he's notable, because pretty much everything in this article is sourced to political organizations antagonistic to Soltan and to other BLP-inadmissible sources like Arutz Sheva. We'd basically have to blank the article just for the sake of BLP compliance, and that's not substantially different from deleting it. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 04:17, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I found this book and this book, each holding a single paragraph about Sultan. I don't see the kind of thorough coverage that satisfies WP:GNG. Binksternet (talk) 04:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. After thinking it over, I've decied this article should be probably be deleted. While his accusations that Jews use human blood to make Matzos do make him an $%^#@!&, it doesn't make him notable for the purposes of Wikipedia.(Hyperionsteel (talk) 04:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC))


 * Keep. He is an important member of the international Muslim Brotherhood, which is a secretive movement, not a transparent organisation, but has founded several institutions: Soltan is founder and President of the Islamic American University in Michigan (Oct. 1999 – June 2003), member of the Fiqh Council of North America (1999 - Dec. 2007), Trustee of the Muslim American Society (2000-2004), member of the European Council for Fatwa and Research (since 2000) and member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars presided by Yusuf al-Qaradawi (since 2004). In the 1980-90ies Soltan has studied Islamic Jurisprudence (fiqh) at Darul-`Uloom Faculty of Cairo University, then lectured at Sultan Qaboos University in Oman (Aug. 1995 - June 1998), then came to the US. He is a proponent of "fiqh al-aqalliyyat" (Muslim minority jurisprudence theory) developed by Taha Jabir Alalwani and Yusuf al-Qaradawi . This political-religious theory on the legal-religious integration of the muslim minority was adopted by both the European Council for Fatwa and Research and the Fiqh Council of North America - both are selfdeclared religious authorities in the West, organized by the international Muslim Brotherhood and including Soltan. And yes, he espouses radical/extremist political and religious views and he states these ideas in public, and that is translated and reported by MEMRI, amongst others. Soltan left the U.S. following negative press reports in the U.S. media which led the authorities there to suspend his application for American citizenship and he relocated to Bahrain in 2007 . According to an arabic article in Al-Wasat dated May 8th 2007 many people were upset that Sultan and Wadgy Abd el-Hamied Mohamed Ghoneim were granted Bahraini citizenship almost immediately upon their arrival in violation of the country's constitution. Sultan has since visited several European countries upon invitations by islamic associations tied to the Muslim Brotherhood (Switzerland 2009, Germany 2009, Netherlands 2010, Sweden 2010, Belgium 2011, ...) Most recent media appearance: "In an August 19 protest rally outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo, attended by some 200 Muslim Brotherhood members, Dr. Saleh Sultan, a shari’a lecturer at Cairo University and head of the Jerusalem Committee of the International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS), said that any Egyptian meeting a Zionist on Egyptian soil is entitled to kill him" That was just weeks before the violent 2011 Cairo Israeli embassy attack on Friday, 9 September 2011. This guy is notable. Keep. --Shengyi (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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