Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salman Aditya


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The result was   delete. none of the provided sources were in fact reliable NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 04:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Salman Aditya

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Unsigned musical artist; no coverage in reliable sources. Perhaps eligible for speedy deletion. Mkativerata (talk) 23:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note - argument for retention added by creator to article talk page. --Mkativerata (talk) 23:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I have read on the notability criteria for musicians, Criteria for musicians and ensembles and Salman Aditya at least meets three point of the Criteria.

1.Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.

http://aerophonesonaeroplanes.blogspot.com/2010/05/salman-aditya.html

2.Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

Place 2 (second) in Australian Psychedelic chart

http://www.mp3.com.au/Charts/Artists/Psychedelic

Place 3 (third) in Australian electro Chart

http://www.mp3.com.au/Charts/Artists/Electro-pop

5.Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).

http://musicbrainz.org/artist/8ad699fa-3e15-4ff2-8280-2011f21b98d0.html thank you

can we close this discussion now ? thank you (Tommyvarcetti (talk) 23:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC))


 * Thanks for your input. I'm not sure either of those 3 points get him across the notability guidelines. 1. That blog is not a reliable source. 2. Those are very minor charts - certainly not recognised "national music charts" - the website gives no indication how the chart is worked out or what are its criteria for entry. 3. Two self-published albums does not mean "two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels". Those criteria aside, I haven't found any independent coverage of Salman's music. --Mkativerata (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- Favonian (talk) 23:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails to meet notability guidelines. Most of the points are made by Favonian above, but just to emphasise the blog is definately not a reliable source and so far I have not found any others.-- SabreBD  (talk)  23:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I've found more Reliable source about Salman Aditya.

Source No. 1, Its from The Biggest Music Webzine in Indonesia
 * http://deathrockstar.info/mp3/

Source No. 2, Its from an University Blog Article


 * http://blogs.unpad.ac.id/salmanaditya/2010/06/07/who-is-salman-aditya/

Source No. 3, Its from Jpop Sites, Jpop is very popular music sites in Japan, and you can not add your own self on that sites. http://www.jpop.com/Salman+Aditya#

Source No. 4, Salman Aditya songs lyrics is all over the place and more
 * http://www.littlelyrics.com/salman-aditya-love-story-lyrics.html
 * http://www.lyricsbang.com/salman-aditya-lyrics-petitio-principii.html
 * http://www.lyricsreg.com/albums/salman+aditya/

Source No. 5, Its from Elbows Music Blog Aggregator http://elbo.ws/artist/salman-aditya/

Source No. 6, I've found Salman Aditya song in Mixx http://www.mixx.com/stories/18121045/salman_aditya_petitio_principii_mp3_4shared_com_online_file_sharing_and_storage_download

I've Found out that Salman Aditya is working with an Indie label from Malaysia, And his songs is already sell on Emusic and Itunes
 * http://www.emusic.com/album/Salman-Aditya-The-Wunderland-MP3-Download/11853482.html
 * http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/salman-aditya/id359715609?ign-mpt=uo%3D4

I think that's all.. thank you.. : ) (Tommyvarcetti (talk) 04:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC))


 * I'm not sure that any of those sources meet the standard of being reliable sources. 1. is just an MP3 download site, where Salman's first listing has only received 201 hits. 2. is a blog article written by Salman ("by salmanaditya). 3. The way that it is written certainly does not look like it is reliable "independent coverage" (eg "you can contact him at myspace). 4. Those websites allow anyone to submit their own lyrics. 5. is an aggregator that gives one listing, which only lists one of Salman's singles in a long list of others. 6. It seems anyone can submit content to this site. As for the Indie lable from Malaysia: I'm not seeing it. This mentions his album is released on the label of "Salman Records / Routenote". RouteNote is a self-publication vehicle for online artists. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your input mate. : )
 * 1. I think You have to know that Its not just an mp3 download site, but also a reviewer site. All mp3's of that site is a great quality from reliable artists. I think soon Salman Aditya review Article will be on that site. And just for you know its Salman Aditya's newest tracks, upload by the sites on 8 July and now its has 455 hits and counting..

6. I think not anyone can submit content to these sites. In RouteNote musicians and everyone can submit their songs/ creation, but only songs that have pass verification,with artist whose a member of PRO (Performance Rights Organization) such as BMI,ASCAP,etc and have a label can be approved on itunes.
 * 2,3,4,5 Yeah i think your right..haha


 * I've found another source, its from japanese music sites. I think its meet the standard of being reliable sources

http://www.muzie.co.jp/artist/r009425/ (Tommyvarcetti (talk) 09:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC))


 * Delete - despite the val;iant efforts at sourcing, I see no coverage in reliable sources with the epmphasis on reliable. -- Whpq (talk) 16:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - no reliable sources, only user generated content. --Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 14:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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