Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salming Sports (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There is no doubt that this company exists and some sources which verify this existance. However, there is a consensus that this company does not have sourcing available to satisfy our standards under WP:NCORP and thus is deleted as non-notable. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:08, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Salming Sports
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No indication this passes WP:NCOMPANY/WP:GNG. WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES. No improvement since AfD 5 years ago. Editors at prior AfD failed to provide a single source and their arguments were limited to 'I've seen their products in some stores'. My WP:BEFORE fails to show anything outside mentions in passing / press releases. (But maybe there are some Swedish sources I am not seeing...) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:19, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  12:19, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:25, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:25, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 17:09, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails NCOMPANY/GNG. No sources, Wikipedia is not a yellow pages. Kacper IV (talk) 09:11, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:NCORP. While it survived its previous AfD it was on the basis of WP:ITSPOPULAR / WP:IKNOWIT / WP:Clearly notable. The NCORP criteria have been tightened up since then. I don't consider either of the existing sources to be independent. In my own search I found no new sources that were reliable, secondary, independent and in depth. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 13:39, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge and redirect into B%C3%B6rje_Salming Quick Google search shows they're an established athletic gear manufacturer including being named an official partner of Professional Squash Association https://psaworldtour.com/news/view/139/psa-launch-partnership-with-salming . This definitely isn't some generic brand that come and go and there's reasonable assumption to believe there are sources in Swedish and presence of English sources isn't a requisite. Graywalls (talk) 01:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand. I'm just giving my perspective on why there are likely sources, but since I don't understand Swedish language, I'm not able to understand the sources. Graywalls (talk) 04:05, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There may be sources. This has been listed on Swedish themed deletion lists, so hopefully a Swedish speaker will comment. I'll also note that sv:Salming Sports has no references. And why some refs have been added recently to the English version we discuss here I don't consider them to be sufficient. A WP:INTERVIEW in an outlet (Handbollskanalen) that does not seem to be notable to even have a Swedish Wikipedia article (so presumably some very niche newspaper or portal), and passing mentions in outlets like Triangle Business Journal. and RunSociety – Asia's Leading Online Running Magazine. Sorry, if that's all we have, we are scraping the proverbial barrel here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  05:25, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


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