Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SamBakZa (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

SamBakZa
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This was previously listed in AfD several years ago, but in my opinion, the "discussion" was flawed. One user mentioned the awards that There she is!! got, and suddenly people started piling on "per user x" votes. This type of behavior is hardly appropriate for an AfD, which is why we even made a guideline concerning it. Anyways, I have yet to see any assertions of SamBakZa's notability that doesn't basically say, "There she is!! is notable, SamBakZa made There she is!!, so therefore they're notable". I can't find it, but I have a feeling that we have a page in the project namespace specifically refuting that mindset. ❤ Yutsi Talk/  Contributions  ( 偉特 ) 17:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete The policy the nom may be thinking of might be WP:NOTINHERITED, as that is the one discussing that just because something is notable, it does not automatically mean that anything connected to it is also notable. But, aside from that, I have to question whether "There She Is" actually even has any real notability that could be inherited.  The number of hits or views something gets online has never been seen as a reliable source of notability on Wiki, and so the only claim to fame this group has is the awards they won due to that video.  However, neither of those awards appear to actually be notable awards themselves.  The Ursa Major Award is not, it is just an award given by a non-notable furry fandom site that I've seen discounted in other AFDs.  The "Anima Mundi Web Festival", I am unfamliar with, however I would suspect to also be useless as far as establishing notability for this group because I am unable to find any actual reliable source talking about this group winning the award for their video.  The source actually provided in the article about this is a dead link, and while searching online gives me information saying the video won, none of them are from a reliable source, and are merely just reposts of the stock description of the video.  Outside of those two supposed awards, there is nothing else that would help establish any sort of notability for the group.Rorshacma (talk) 17:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - does not meet WP:GNG. I didn't find any reliable sources even mentioning SamBakZa. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 04:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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