Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Sloan

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The result of the debate was Nomination withdrawn. – Ryan Delaney talk 10:05, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Sam Sloan
POV Billbrock 18:33, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Sloan probably merits entry based on winning the Supreme Court case, but the second paragraph of the 12 Aug 2005 article is at a risible distance from NPOV. Billbrock 18:47, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep because NPOV is not a valid criteria for deletion; it is a criteria for editing the page. -- BD2412 talk 19:40, August 12, 2005 (UTC)


 * Actually, POV is a valid criterion for deletion when the POV of the entire article is skewed. This is not quite a vanity entry, but it comes awfully close.  No mention is made of Sloan's felony conviction.  However, I agree that a complete rewrite would be an acceptable fix. Billbrock 00:32, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Note to admin - I initiated the VfD, and now agree that neutrality dispute is more appropriate. Agree with speedy keep. Billbrock 17:18, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I vote to keep.

The POV issues can be easily cleaned up by a 3rd party. His Supreme Court victory alone merits a wiki. Nagaflas 04:04, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Then could we get someone (obviously not me) to take a crack at it? Billbrock 17:04, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, no. We do not need articles on the tens of thousands of attorneys who have argued before the SCOTUS. Just because you have argued (or won) there does not make you notable. &rarr;Raul654 16:29, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I believe this to be a vanity page.  Sloan's claims to fame are disputed to be quite spurious according to an extensive number of people--Knucmo2 18:11, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


 * [Keep] You don't understand. He is the last NON-JURIST to win a case before the Supreme Court. That is why he is noteworthy. Nagaflas 19:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Boils down to semantics. Does anyone disagree that this article fails NPOV?  Doesn't matter whether this is remedied with a rewrite, or with delete & eventual replacement.  Just needs to be remedied. Billbrock 17:09, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Template:Sofixit CanadianCaesar 20:36, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Normally I would fix it, but I've recently been involved in a rather public dispute with Sloan (a convicted felon, a pornographer, a child molester, a racist, a habitual liar....). I cannot achieve NPOV :-) Billbrock 17:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per BD2412 --malathion talk 21:16, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


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