Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samantha Sin


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The result was   delete.  Wifione  Message 06:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Samantha Sin

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I'm not exactly sure what's going on in this article. Samantha Sin is a real porn star, but she appears to fail WP:PORNBIO, as she has never even been nominated for anything. Moreover, contrary to what the article says, she was discussed in Penthouse a few times but she was never actually a Penthouse Pet; plus, the way the article is written, it kind of feels like a bunch of other articles were thrown together to make it (complete with much of it written in the first or second-person). And as far as the references, they are either dead links, dangerous links, or they don't mention Ms. Sin at all.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 15:01, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 15:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * *Keep I dont know why Samantha Sin no appears in Pornbio. But for AVN Awards she was nominated in 2009 fot best oral sex ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2395806/awards), she won a group AVN awards for the best outrageous sex scene( http://avnawards.avn.com/past-shows/past-winners/2009/ ). She had her own TV show in RudeTV ( http://www.xbiz.com/news/96935 ). And about links don't mention Ms. Sin at all, because its about aliases (many). She was a penthouse pet in the channel Penthouse HD (http://www.enotes.com/topic/Penthouse_HDTV). Greatings Glavior (talk) 15:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Correction, she dont win AVN for the șost outrageous sex scene ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1388785/awards ) I correct the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glavior (talk • contribs) 16:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * A few things:
 * A few things:


 * 1) Believe it or not, IMDb actually isn't always a reliable source for awards (I found that out the hard way here, and ever since that point, I have sought out sources directly from the award websites).
 * 2) The AVN Awards 2009 link you listed doesn't mention her at all.
 * 3) None of the references in the article mention her supposed aliases either.
 * 4) Having a show on RudeTV doesn't exactly establish notability (that might just be my opinion though).
 * 5) Being a supposed Penthouse Pet on the Penthouse HD channel is not the same as being a Penthouse Pet in the print publication (I'm not even sure they call the women "pets" on the channel).
 * As far as the wording in the article, well...I understand you're a new editor, and I'm pretty sure English is not your first language, but in any event, don't think we're here to gang up on you. We're just trying to help you get a handle on why this article does not belong in Wikipedia.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 19:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete as a horrid BLP violation. No reliable sourcing, and the article seems to have been cobbled together from various promotional pages regarding porn performers of similar appearance and/or name, with no RS/BLP-compliant evidence that the various performer aliases are actually used by the same person. And, as the nominator accurately points out, the subject clearly fails PORNBIO, and there's not a shred of evidence indicating she meets the GNG, even if the claims in the article could be documented. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * WPPornbio reclaim :


 * 1.Has won a well-known award such as an AVN Award.
 * 2.Has received nominations for well-known awards in multiple years. (AVN Awards Nominee in 2009)
 * 3.Has made unique contributions to a specific pornographic genre, such as beginning a trend in pornography; starred in an iconic, groundbreaking or blockbuster feature; or is a member of an industry Hall of Fame such as the AVN Hall of Fame, XRCO Hall of Fame or equivalent. (Main actress of Plucked then fucked directed by Melissa Lauren)
 * 4.Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media (Dirty Divas on RudeTV).
 * So Samantha Sin accomplished three terms. It s our own rules. So KEEP Glavior (talk) 16:58, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: Double "keep" !vote struck out.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 19:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Typical crap sourced vapid porn bio. The following is utterly unsourced which would fly for about zero minutes in a normal WP bio: "Samantha Sin was born with mixed origins, with Cherokees blood, German and English." Actually, BLP concerns aside, maybe illiteracy needs to be added to the laundry list of complaints... Here's another unsourced BLP gem: "In June 2005, at 20 years old, she turns in her first porn scene directed by Ed Powers in the film Dirty Debutantes # 322. Since it will only hardcore. The same year, Samantha Sin signs with Red Light District Video, and it turns in their productions. Samantha loves to play the scene and anal lesbians (Samantha Sin is openly bisexual). In addition, it also performs creampie scenes." Let's just gracefully call that paragraph "the original research of a porn hobbyist." At a minimum, assuming it is not defamatory. WP:NOTCOMMONS is applicable here, there is no whiny "Wikipedia is not censored!" rationale to defend a photograph of your dick... At En-WP article subjects must be the subject of multiple instances substantial, independent published coverage in reliable sources. This, as is the case for 99.93% of porn bios making their way to AfD, fails the clear the bar miserably. Carrite (talk) 17:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Carrite, please don't bite the newbies. The author of the article has been on Wikipedia for only about one month. In addition, it is fairly plain that English is not the contributor's first language. Judging from his contributions, it appears to me that the contributor is making good faith edits to improve Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 17:31, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

ERASE IT, I DONT WANT TO WASTE MY TIME TO DEFEND A GOOD ARTICLE ABOUT GOOD PORNSTAR, SHOCKING, OF COURSE IT S NOT A SAINT.Glavior (talk) 19:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:PORNBIO and WP:GNG. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 14:45, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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