Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samantha Smith (actress)


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The result was no consensus. Almost a month, and I don't see a clear consensus developing. Deor (talk) 19:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Samantha Smith (actress)

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I do not see enough evidence of her meeting meeting WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. While she has acted in over 40 shows and films, practically all of them were just brief cameos or single episode guest appearances. Her role as Mary Winchester on Supernatural is not substantial either since she has only appeared in seven of the almost 200 episodes that have aired so far. She has no awards or recognition for her work, no significant fan base (except occasional mentioning in Supernatural wikis and fan sites), and barely any coverage in major entertainment news sites. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep Just because she doesn't have a fanbase or awards doesn't mean she doesn't have notability. A regular guest star on major series, and redlinking this would be embarassing in SPN articles.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. There may be an issue with her name being so common (sometimes it is even "Sam Smith" which is even more common). When I googled this search string -- ("samantha smith") -Maine -plane -crash -Andropov -Soviet (actress OR winchester OR paranormal OR supernatural) -- and perused the photos, it was not clear to me exactly who was the real Samantha Smith, like there are at least two different actresses with the name Samantha Smith. If the photos are all of the same person, ie Samantha Smith the actress, then when she is sometimes blonde, sometimes brunette, with different looks, (needed obviously to play different roles) well it is somewhat difficult to ascertain with certainty exactly who is the Samantha Smith. Is it this person? Or this person? Or this person? Or this person? If we look at Getty images, seems like there are two different persons. That said, using the best search string I could concoct, after searching 10 SERP pages, I did not see much in the way of multiple independent reliable nontrivial sources as required by the WP:GNG although it may be there was so much fan cruft that it needs somebody to search through perhaps another 10 to 20 SERP pages. Or, maybe she is a character actor who somewhat flies under the radar of name recognition?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:53, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per Nate. Has had multiple roles in many notable films and TV shows including 7 episodes of Supernatural which even the nom admits.  That there are over 200 episodes doesn't magically make her re-occurring appearances disappear.--Oakshade (talk) 19:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar ♔   05:10, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Delete None of her film roles seem to be notable (we lack articles on these films eve), and her TV roles tend towards 1 episode.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 20:40, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - Yes she's been on major shows but we can't keep articles based on that, There needs to be some form of notability which isn't what I'm seeing right now. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  23:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, per WP:NACTOR - "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" - we can.--Oakshade (talk) 03:13, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No we can't - 1/2 Episodes aren't significant roles so thus actually fails NACTOR entirely. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  04:14, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you're saying. Are you claiming the multiple reoccurring roles and many guest roles on multiple notable television shows didn't happen ("1/2 Episodes") and that her resume is fradulent? --Oakshade (talk) 04:30, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Neither am I!, ofcourse not, I thought significant meant something else hence the above ..., Anyway sorry for any confusion. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  04:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
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