Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sameh Sami


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This is a difficult AFD to close as I see blocked accounts arguing both for Delete and Keep and long-time editors basing their own decisions on the opinions of sockpuppets. This article can't be deleted via CSD G5 as there are many other editors who have contributed to this article. I think this discussion is too tainted by sockpuppetry and relisting will not help.

I recommend launching a follow-up AFD that, hopefully, will be sockpuppet-free. No penalty for editors copying their comments here to a second AFD or for starting a new AFD as soon as this one is closed. Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Sameh Sami

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fails WP:BIO, no Notability, all the refs are Trivial mentions and talk about the magazine which he works in not about him, many references are unreliable an unknown websites, ref no. 7 are YouTube link and refs (12 - 13) are not independent (guest articles written by the person), The article is clearly WP:MASK with a lot of puffing phrases and the article's creator manipulate with sources because he knows that most of the users do not know the Arabic language. Adelk220 (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Egypt. Adelk220 (talk) 18:06, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment starting this AfD was the second edit of this new account, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:50, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sami is head of the cultural section of notable Egyptian daily newspaper Al Shorouk as well as editor of an Egyptian film magazine so he may be notable. There are a lot of external links in the article as well as references including dead links. There is also the Egyptian Arabic wikipedia article translated here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * There are thousands of people who are (head of section) in many newspapers in many countries, so all of them are notable? also, (AlShorouk) is founded in 2009 it isn't old nor a high notable like other Egyptian newspapers, I think this is weak argument and not compatible with WP:BIO. Adelk220 (talk) 13:38, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * He is a Christian person 105.32.75.209 (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Leaning Keep reference 9 is not an article written by him as claimed in the nomination and is significant coverage about him translated here, references 13 and reference 14 are also not articles by him as claimed, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:27, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * (alb-masr.com) is a low-profile website and unreliable source, ref #13 is an interview with him and that is not an independent, ref #14 is trivial mentions and a column article also. Anyway all this referances don't comply with WP:GNG and just collection of links contain his name no more. --Adelk220 (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * have you edited as Ibrahim.ID as your afd? Ahmed aldola (talk) 22:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 02:23, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete The article seems somewhat promotional, and issues with references are echoed. I am an Arab and the first time I hear of it! --Osps7 (talk) 20:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you, please read this link > it is an interview with him in the Egyptian Syndicate and he is an editor of an Egyptian film magazine so he is notable. please read the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia article.regards Ahmed aldola (talk) 23:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This is clear evidence that this source is not independent, it's an interview with the person. Adelk220 (talk) 13:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * *Comment starting this AfD was the second edit of this new account why? please read this link the Egyptian Syndicate described him and he is an editor of an Egyptian film magazine so he is notable as well as the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia article aldola|Ahmed aldola] (talk) 22:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 *  Delete  I am an Arabic Wikipedia editor, I find this article: No Notability, Promotional article without reliable resources. also, the external links are repeated and some of them is broken.--Sandra Hanbo (talk) 21:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep I am an Arab and I read his articles at Magazine El film which is concerned with the culture of image and film. Sameh Samy is head of the cultural section of notable Egyptian daily newspaper Al Shorouk so he is notable.. There is also the Egyptian Arabic wikipedia article translated here--Larosa jp (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting as I don't see a consensus yet. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak delete or redirect references including dead links--عيسى ايوب (talk) 16:47, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * the article in Arabic Wikipedia deleted 14 time (Per A7 no notability) from 10 admins after re-creation many times and now infinite protected from creation. --Adelk220 (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * here the protection level for " Sameh Sami " ([Modify=Sysop Only] (unchecked) [Move=Sysop Only] in he Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia Ahmed aldola (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Final relist as I'm still not seeing a consensus here among editors. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:10, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Sameh Sami is the editor-in-chief of Film Magazine, which is considered one of the prominent and influential magazines in Egypt. It is the only specialized magazine now in Egypt in the culture of cinema. He is also the director of the Cairo Jesuits, which is one of the prominent cultural places in Egypt built on the legacy of the second oldest studio. Cinematic and includes famous art schools such as the School of Film, Animation and Theater--Ahmed aldola (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. As per Ahmed aldola, the editor in chief of an influential publication is sufficiently notable. CT55555 (talk) 02:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I am with the quick deletion, the character does not meet the standards of notability, and I repeat my words. I am an Arab and I have never heard of it before. Note: the following accounts: Ahmed aldola / عيسى ايوب / Larosa jp It is used to rally votes and it is for one person. --Osps7 (talk) 06:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mr. Osps7, but I wish to delete the last comment that hints that I am someone else. How do I defend the topic and at the same time ask to delete it under the name of عيسى أيوب? Please note the comment from Mr. Atlantic306 that he noticed from the top of this page and it is (starting this AfD was the second edit of this new account), I am also Egyptian and I read the film magazine and I know the activity of the Cairo Jesuits. Please see these written links written in Arabic   You should read Mr.User:Meno25 tag for the article as


 * Speedy Delete per G5: Page creator and at least one participant in this have been blocked for socking. This page is the workproduct of a blocked sockpuppet, meeting criteria for speedy deletion as G5. BusterD (talk) 22:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.